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Thursday, 10 April 2014

MR. PERFECT - "A Good Man"

So as I am still slaving away at my next “hair-pulling” blog, a thought about the perfect partner came to me. Well actually, I was talking to a very good friend recently and we talked about the state of the current dating scene. And along with this came the discussion of the book by Steve Harvey “Think Like A Man Act Like A Lady”.


Now I’m sure if every one either hasn't heard about or read the book just about everyone has seen the movie of the same name.

There are dozens of women looking for a “Good Man”, (not to mention the men also looking for that good woman) and we all know that there are men out there very willing and ready to take advantage of that woman. Let’s face reality, most of us fall for that façade that is presented, like the beautiful front of a house and then once we get inside are shocked to find rot and mold everywhere. This might be a horrible analogy but it is true. People often tell you just what they know you want to hear and often need to hear. Although often they are prepared to lie outright, usually it’s nothing so blatant and this makes it very difficult for us to see them for what they are.

These façades are formed by mixing enough truth with omission, glossed over facts and a sprinkling of lies. My girlfriend is a really amazing person. She has the credentials of the ideal girlfriend: sweet, funny, and intelligent, up for just about anything (and I mean anything), pretty inside and out, even her sarcasm is hilarious and she is no where near clingy and to top it off a great business woman. But she has the same problem as every other woman out there; finding a decent man that won’t take advantage of these things that make a great.

And she, as well as myself and dozens of women, no matter how intelligent we might be, have been kicked in the proverbial nuts countless times because of being willing to give someone half a chance and by listening to them an providing them with all the space and choice they could possibly need and want allowing nose leading to take place.

The dawn of social media means that dating now largely takes place in cyberspace. In a number ways this is great for most people, especially women.

1.       You get to develop a friendship first

This is important to most mature women, because we all know that physical attraction can only take you so far, if you cannot have talks with your partner, both fun and serious, just being in the same room where no sex takes place for more then 10 minutes would drive you insane.

2.       Getting to know someone well

With developing a friendship comes getting to know and understand how someone thinks and feels before the physical desire takes over which can overshadow things for a while, and we all know that physical attraction can disguise itself as love.

And most important of all,

3.       It’s safe

You don’t have to worry about being sexually assaulted, sold into slavery, or being stalked. If you think the person is a jerk or they just come across as creepy it’s easy to just hit the delete or block button.

But along with these great advantages there are a lot of negatives. Mostly these take the form of FABRICATION.

And I do not mean lying about the way someone looks. Most people are smart enough not to do that but there are other worse things that people can do that can put you in bad, or awkward positions. People lie about their situations, such as employment, financial state and social positions. Although these are usually things we might be able to accept over time. People also lie about their relationship status and that they have chosen to start to build an exclusive relationship with you, especially if on line dating results in a long distance relationship.

Social media dating has produced a number of dating sites, via pc or via your cellphone. Facebook has also become a place to meet ones potential partner and once that step has been taken it’s easy to move from chat rooms to forms such as Whatapp, BBM and E-mail. These forms of dating allows one to cast a wider net in seeking that “perfect” partner but it also means that we will only know what the person allows on their profile and will tell us.

It’s normal to try and make yourself sound more appealing than what you think you might actually be. This is simple human nature but to outright lie is something totally different. These people are fully aware that their situations would never be desirable to a potential partner (or someone they might be looking to extort). There are a lot of men out there who think because some women have chosen to use a dating site that they are desperately seeking someone, anyone, when in truth it’s just easier.

Who wants to pick someone up in a nightclub or bar, no woman with half a brain, and to be fixed-up by one’s friends on blind dates are just painful experiences, usually.

The honest truth is that for most women dating of any kind, online or not, is just one of the biggest pains in life, getting to know someone, sifting though what’s fact and fiction and more often than not finding that you’ve wasted your time is just enough to make one throw in the towel. It is seemingly effortless today to be able to keep up appearances thanks to social media and being able to accumulate large amounts of debt. It has often been noted in my town that people coming from somewhere else will often rent expensive cars to provide the illusion of wealth and success to more easily lure women.

We have often heard the jibe of “gold digger” because of this but realistically every woman wants a man who is ambitious and successful and the easy way to see that is often by possessions. And it does not necessarily mean that the woman is solely after a man’s money, especially if she works hard for her own, she just wants a man who can hold his own.

The point most people, especially men miss from books like Steve Harvey’s and their movie counterparts is that it is pointing out how difficult is for anyone, but women especially, to find that “Good Man”. Everyone has their hang-ups and while everyone is shouting, “you just want to change me”, this is far from the point.

As a woman who have numerous obstacles to overcome, men who have been given everything by their mother’s so that they won’t be replaced, men who are sometime so socially driven that they see nothing else. Men who have no ambition even though they have the greatest potential, men who just don’t want grow up but continue to act like a teen; partying and drinking till early morning hours. All while fighting their own desires not to push to hard for greater commitment or being condemned as wanting to change their partner.

What is asserted in “Think Like A Man, Act Like A Lady” is that as we women are way to hard on ourselves and way to lenient on our partners or potential partners.

You are a woman! And therefore you have needs, emotional and physical yes. But you need to be logical in achieving your goals. And to get what you want you need to be upfront but tactful in weeding out what will not work. There are men out there looking for something meaningful, yes, but there are more men out there just looking for a good time. Therefore either way the easiest thing to do is to find out exactly who fits under what category.

Steve Harvey makes good points in that when you just meet someone, or are at the first three dates stage that you have the full right, as does the person you’re out with, to know where you stand. And this can be done as stated by Harvey with some simple questions and especially rules for yourself, how do you do this? Well…by finding out what his goals are in life, long term and short term. When a man talks about his long term goals you will know exactly where he sees himself in maybe five years and also if you’d fit into that picture. Does he want kids, is family or work more important to him and of course his dreams. Does he have drive or is he just fine with being stuck were he is.

The other thing that we as women suffer from is the “perfect man” syndrome.

Yes we do! We have this lists of what we believe a man should be like:
·         Loving,
·         Kind,
·         Must love animals,
·         Must earn 6 figures,
·         Must have a house,
·         Must drive a specific car,
·         Etc…..
This list can be long either in physical form or mental. And Steve Harvey is not the first who I’ve heard say “Lower your expectation”. Now when women here this there is an outcry but realistically what is meant by lower your expectations is be REALISTIC.
“Mr PERFECT” does not exist in the concept as we have formed in our minds. You need to decide what is the most important on your list and also look at the pro’s and con’s of what you looking for.

What do I mean?
The things that you deem most important for the type of partner you are looking to have, move these; say four or five, points to the top of the list and either decide to compromise on or disregard the rest.

Then weigh the pro’s and con’s of these point in a realistic list. For example, if you want him to be ambitious understand that there are many nights and days that you might not see him until late or not at all and would you be prepared for this. Not just short term but possibly for the rest of you life?

If not pick something else weight the pro’s and con’s until you have a list that you can live with for the rest of your life, as, after all you’ll have to live with the man that embodies them for that time period.

But to me most important of all, not on the first date but by the 3rd of 4th, be open about what you want. State in no uncertain terms what kind of relationship you want. What the end result of the relationship should be for you, especially if its marriage you want.

This might seem drastic to many but with the rise of single women in their 30’s and divorced women some older some younger and single mothers in the dating world it’s often necessary to be blunt. If this scares him off then at least you know you haven’t invested months or years with someone who wasn’t on the same path as you.

And if I know anything, after the first few dates I know if I want to spend more time with someone. So by the forth date if you don’t, stop torturing yourself and move on. Also just so you know, after the first month or two most men know if they want to be serious about a woman or not. And his actions will dictate his feelings, if this is not the case… I repeat, MOVE ON.

Now for my rules!

NEVER date a man who won’t open a door for you! If he’s picking you up, and to me it’s only a proper date if he’s picking you up, and he clicks that alarm or walks to the drivers side with out actually opening the door for you…let those alarm bells ring! To me that’s strike one, if you chose to continue on the date and he isn’t opening doors for you…

To me a man who opens doors for the woman he’s with, especially when taking her out, shows respect, attention and importance. It shows he’s mother raised him right. This also means him not walking you to your door or coming to your door to walk out with you.

If he hasn’t introduced you to his friends by the 1st month or his parents…forget it, he’s a lost cause. Especially if you’ve asked him to open those doors and why you haven’t met his friends or his mother and he’s given you some excuse that’s your cue to make your graceful exit.

If you are important to a man, he’s talked about you to his parents and his friends and those are the people he’ll want you to meet because how you get along with these people determines his next move on where the relationship is going for him.

A man gives the woman he has plans for a title. What this means is that for the very most after a month he hasn’t given you a title when introducing you to his friends or people he knows (specially other women) then you aren’t important to him. If he is not introducing you as his girlfriend, or a title that amounts to the same thing, especially if you’re introducing him with a title you need to re-evaluate if it’s worth spending more time with him, personally I wouldn’t.

And most important to me! The Cookie!!! Oh yes, the prize of all men. To be blunt, you have it and he wants it but he has to earn it. He has to prove himself worthy of it. It a benefit only you can give and if you are important to him he only wants it from you. One of my dating rules is, no kiss until the after the 3rd date. He doesn’t even get to hold my hand on the first date so he definitely isn’t getting a kiss. And the cookie well he isn’t getting that until after month one. The longer he’s prepared to wait, the more you know that it just not the Cookie he’s after.
For me these rules for myself shows a man that I value myself, that I deserve respect over all else and that if he isn’t prepared to give me that, because I deserve it. Then he doesn’t deserve me.

There might be dozens of women out there but there is only one you and you are unique and a “Good Man” will know your worth. No matter how successful you are, no matter how well you can compete in a man’s world. Even if you’re a supermom, you are still a woman and that is something to be proud of, and a man will only give you what you require of him. If you do not require him to do anything, give you anything he won’t and you can only require anything of him by setting standards and letting him what it is that you want.

With this goes the concept of the “PERFECT MAN” I mentioned early, there is no such thing as perfect. For me Perfect does not mean that he fits a specific criteria but that he is perfect in understanding you, providing for your needs, not your wants, wants can be achieved over time and together, but it is what you need that truly completes your happiness as a person, for a relationship. This means that if you need monogamy, from him and your require him to provide it he will be perfect for you be fulfilling that need. If he cannot then he is not a “Good Man”. This is how these two concepts are interlinked, if he is a “Good Man” he will be Perfect for you.


And any man who begins to shout that you want to change him might have to evaluate the situation that you place in front of him to solve. A relationship requires certain things and it is her right to have realistic requirement of you and your time with her. A man whose woman is important to him will make the necessary changes to better the situation not just for himself but for his woman as well. 

Wednesday, 19 March 2014

Giant thoughts (NEPHILIM 1)

Enoch to the Nephilim:


He goes to them and informs them that they will never be allowed to enter heaven again but will be bound in chains in the earth.

This particular sentence caught my eye for one reason, it echo’s the fate of the Titans, who where defeated and cast into Tartarus by their children lead by Zeus. Mythology around the world is filled with the exploits of gods and their children, who were the great heroes of the past, helping to defeat great armies or doing so almost single handed, either by cunning or by sheer brute strength.

The question that remains is did they really exist or were these just stories to explain strange events, triumph over impossible odds or to boost the hearts of people?




If we take into account Greek mythology, alone, one of the greatest and most well known heroes, Hercules or his true name Herakles was born of a union of seduction between Zeus the King of the gods and Alcmene. Zeus fell in love with her and when her husband was away he seduced and impregnated her. This angered Zeus’ goddess wife Hera and she tried to prevent the birth. Despite her best efforts Alcmene gave birth to her son, and to add insult to injury named him Herakles (wonder if she did this to thumb her nose at Hera), as the name Herakles means "glorious gift of Hera" in Greek, so obviously Hera was in a murderous mood, literally. She tried to kill him by sending snakes into his crib but being a strong baby, strangled them. After Herakles became a warrior and was married and had two children, Hera decided to make his life as miserable as possible and sent a madness which caused him to murder his wife and children. In atonement for his sin, he wanted to right the wrong he had done, the God Apollo set him 10 labours which later increased to 12. He was told once the labours where completed he would become immortal; he didn’t just complete the 12 tasks but had many great adventures, also marrying Deianira.

Deinira was captured by Nessus the centaur, after he had crossed a river with her Herakles shot and killed him with a hydra poisoned arrow but as he lay dying he told Deinaira that a mixture of olive oil and his heart's blood would ensure that Herakles would never again be unfaithful. She foolishly believed him and took some of the blood and when her faith began to wane she anointed a cloak and gave it to her husband as a gift with horrifying results. The centaur blood was toxic to Herakles and he was in agony for many days as the poison burned through his body. He had his friends build him a funeral pyre and lay himself down onto it and as he began to burn alive, Hera yielded, agreeing with Zeus that he had suffered enough and allowed him to be brought to Olympus where he became an immortal god.

Hercules, as we know him was one of the most famous of demigods but the list is longer than my arm; Perseus and Zetes just to name a few, not to mention Atalanta one of few female hero’s in Greek mythology.

Gilgamesh was a Mesopotamian “demigod”, also known as Bilgamesh in Sumerian texts. He was described as two-thirds god and one-third man. The world over there are these stories of demigods and superhumans, who have graced the world, their great deeds and battles have been carried down as mythology to us but are these simply just myths, stories or might their be some truth to it. Having recently explored the idea of Nephilim; giants, half human half angelic beings, who walked the earth during biblical times. Taller and stronger than mortal men, and we are given the idea that they weren’t just physically superior but mentally as well one does begin to wonder. Also, along with these stories of a “super-race” across the world we find very strange artefacts that the most learn people through our scientific age are still fully, not only trying to explain, but also duplicate to prove that it was simply ancient ingenuity. Some of these items of our ancient age are of monolithic proportion, others small and as baffling as I would imagine it would be trying to explain what fire is to someone who has never seen or felt it before, promotes these myths of super strength and intelligence that we are told developed of a few hundred years…

“Biblical text humanity” itself is only a few thousand years old, science tells us that man is a few million years old and that the oldest civilizations existed tens of thousands of years ago. Yet man’s progression in knowledge is amazing. Which ever account we choose to accept either biblical or scientific the leaps in mans knowledge is still astonishing. Why do I say this, there is proof that many of the innovations that we believe to be only a few decades to a few hundred years old was once well practiced by civilizations older than what we ever realised. Text like the Midrash says that this knowledge was given to man by the angels; queue Greek mythology, which says that some of man’s discoveries like fire were stolen from the gods. All these that these premises have in common is that our knowledge came from somewhere other than human resourcefulness.

As far as we are concerned everything mechanical is quite modern and electricity was discovered a little of 200 years ago.

The true is Electricity is older than that, but still very young as far as history is concerned, discovered just over 2000 years ago, by the ancient Greeks. Quite a few of us don’t realise that by the 17th century, many electricity-related discoveries had been made, such as the invention of an early electrostatic generator, the differentiation between positive and negative currents, and the classification of materials as conductors or insulators. Then Benjamin Franklin came along in 1752 and attached a key to a kite standing on top of Christ Church in Philadelphia, he wanted to prove that lightening was electricity and he wanted to find a way to protect buildings from lightening. So as far as I see it he was the inventor of the lightening rod not electricity. But there are discoveries out there that just still completely perplexes the human mind, if these finds are so young how is it that the artefacts found, the monoliths that exist, how are where they made possible, there are those who have stated it is possibly not of this planet (yes I know, I know).


The Antikythera Mechanism is one of the world’s oldest known geared devices. Unlike other debatable antiques, most scholars & experts conform in its authenticity and ingenuity. It has puzzled historians of all types since its discovery. Assumed to be originated around 100 B.C.E this perplexing artifact composed of many gears and wheels which were recovered by sponge-divers from a shipwreck in 1900 off the coast of Antikythera, a small island that lies northwest of Crete. An X-Ray of the mechanism revealed that the object contains a sophisticated system of differential gears inside. Gearing of this complexity was not known to exist until 1575! The miniaturisation of the object is what makes it remarkable and for the complexity of its small parts. It has over 30 gears, although Michael Wright (an expert in this field) has suggested as many as 72 gears, with teeth formed through equilateral triangles (and I so hated math).
The device was being carried on a Roman ship that was wrecked between 80 and 60 B.C.E. The ship was believed to have been sailing to the Anatolian Peninsula (also called Asia Minor) to what is now Turkey and was carrying some of the finest works of art of its day.

It wasn’t until 50 years after it was originally discovered that an Australian archaeologist using X-rays began to discover that there was a lot more to the mystery piece than was originally thought. However, due to still limited technology at the time, the actual function of the Antikythera Mechanism wasn’t known until decades later.

In 2005, using sophisticated software and technology, it was finally discovered that the Antikythera Mechanism was an astronomical device, and by using it, one could navigate one’s position at sea by charting the stars in the skies. It was also an astrological device. By setting it to a particular day, such as a person’s birth date, one could see how the stars and planets would line up for that person. Using it as a timeline, one could then tell that person’s future by looking at the planets’ alignment for decades to come.
The device could also predict lunar phases, lunar eclipses, and the positions of the sun and moon for years to follow. Later it was also found that the device could predict the motion of the planets, and cast horoscopes for planning future festivals and events in the ancient world.

The mechanism is the oldest known complex scientific calculator being over 2000 years old. It contains many gears, and is sometimes called the first known analogue computer, although its flawless manufacturing suggests that it may have had a number of predecessors during the Hellenistic Period which have not yet been discovered. It appears to be constructed upon theories of astronomy and mathematics developed by Greek astronomers and it is estimated that it was made around 150-100 B.C.E. One hypothesis is that the device was constructed at an academy founded by the ancient Stoic philosopher Posidonius on the Greek island of Rhodes, which at the time was known as a centre of astronomy and mechanical engineering, and that perhaps the astronomer Hipparchus was the engineer who designed it since it contains a lunar mechanism which uses Hipparchus's theory for the motion of the Moon.

Professor Michael Edmunds of Cardiff University who led a study of the mechanism said:

"This device is just extraordinary, the only thing of its kind. The design is beautiful, the astronomy is exactly right. The way the mechanics are designed just makes your jaw drop. Whoever has done this has done it extremely carefully...in terms of historic and scarcity value, I have to regard this mechanism as being more valuable than the Mona Lisa."

Mathias Buttet, director of Research and Development at the Swiss watchmaking company Hublot, said,
“It includes ingenious features which are not found in modern watchmaking.” Buttet has managed to recreate a smaller version of the device the size of an average wrist watch.”
Altogether, the Antikythera Mechanism used about 30 gear wheels, with very sophisticated and intricate parts that all interconnect. Researchers are still not sure who created the device or what its true purpose ultimately was.

(Makes you wonder why they don’t teach THIS in school, I think someone should seriously revise the education system!)

Ancient Flying Machine Models? 


An object was found in 1898 in a tomb at Saqquara, Egypt and was later dated as having been created near 200 B.C.E. It was thrown into a box marked "wooden bird model" and then stored in the basement of the Cairo museum. It was rediscovered by Dr. Khalil Messiha, who studied models made by ancients. The "discovery" was considered so important by the Egyptian government that a special committee of leading scientists was established to study the object. Why? Remember when this item was found in 1898 airplanes were unknown, the first airplane was invented by the Wright Brothers in 1903, so it was just thought to be a model like any other, possibly a child’s toy. So why was it thought to be more by Dr. Khalil Messiha? Well in 1969 Dr. Khalil Messiha noticed the difference between this model and the rest of the birds. The typical models of the ancient Egyptian birds have legs but this one did not. Other bird models had painted feathers but not this one. The model has a 7-inch (17.78cm) wingspan and a vertical tail, not a horizontal one like typical ancient Egyptian bird models.
Let's consider some other aspects of the model. The model has the exact proportions of a very advanced form of "pusher-glider" that is still having "some bugs ironed out". This type of glider will stay in the air almost by itself—even a very small engine will keep it going at low speeds, as low as 45 to 65 mph (72.42 to 104.61 km), while it can carry an enormous payload. This ability is dependent on the curious shape of wings and their proportions. The tipping of wings downward, a reversedihedral wing as it is called, is the feature behind this capability. A similar type of curving wings are implemented on the Concorde airplane, giving the plane a maximum lift without detracting from its speed.
Messiha's brother, a flight engineer, reproduced it in balsa wood and launched it and it flew. Dr. Messiha was then sure it was a model of an airplane not a bird. The model was from the 3rd century B.C.E, from an age of invention that followed the death of Alexander the Great. That so-called Hellenistic period gave us gears, screws, plumbing, control valves, Euclidean geometry, Archimedes, and Ptolemy's astronomy. The hieroglyphs on the model airplane say "the Gift of Amon". Amon in ancient Egypt was known to be the god of wind and air and this was another proof that the model was more than a model bird. In addition to the phrase on the assumed model, the phrase "I want to fly" was found in three papyrus scripts.
In that context, it seems rather incredible that someone, more than 2,000 years ago, for any reason, devised a model of a flying device with such advanced features, requiring quite extensive knowledge of aerodynamics. There were no such things as airplanes in those times; we are told by archaeologists and historians. But this case seems to be an exception, living in the midst of the rather unimaginative and rigid paradigm of contemporary science. It is also necessary to point out that Egyptians are known to have nearly always made scale-models of projects and objects which they planned to create or build. So if this was never meant to be built why does a model exist?



Gold trinkets were also found in an area covering Central America and coastal areas of South America, estimated to belong to a period between 500 and 800 C.E, but since they are made from gold, accurate dating is impossible and based essentially on stratigraphy which may be deceptive. However, we can safely say that these gold objects are more than 1000 years old. Archaeologists labeled these objects as zoomorphic, meaning, animal shaped objects. The question is what animal do they represent? When we compare these with other objects from the same cultures depicting animals, a curious facet of the comparison would be obvious: the other objects are recognizable, rendered usually with great accuracy and attention to realistic detail. Yet these, although animal-like do not seem to represent any kind of species that we are familiar with, unless these creatures are now extinct.
There are several types of animals which fly that this could represent—birds, insects, and several mammals, such as bats and some gliders, for instance flying squirrels, opossums, and then there are some lizards; there are also some fish which for brief periods glide through the air. There are water animals which seem to fly through the water, such as rays, skates and some selachians. But how does this golden object compare with these choices? All its features taken into a consideration, we have no match. Seen from above, the object obviously has no fish features, but seems to show rather explicitly mechanistic ones.
The structures just in front of the tail are strongly reminiscent of a combination of ailerons and elevators with a slight forward curve, but they are attached to the fuselage, rather than the wings. In any case, they look more like airplane parts than like the claspers of a fish. If the two prominent spirals on the wings are supposed to be a stylized version of the eyes of a ray, then what are the two globular objects positioned on the head supposed to represent? To complicate the identification even more, the spirals on the wings have their copies positioned on the nose of the object, in the opposite direction. When the object is viewed in profile, the dissimilarity to anything from the animal kingdom is even more pronounced. If the zoomorphic explanation is supposed to hold, then why did the artist cut the head off almost three quarters from the body? And why is the nose practically rectangular and the cut tilted forward, with eyes positioned at either side, when fish eyes are usually more near the centre of the bodyline and far forward on the head? What we can make of the semicircular grooves on the inside of the cut? What is it supposed to be—fishwise? And what about the scoop, forward and under the cut? It is a scoop, not just a ridge for drilling a hole through to place the object on a necklace or chain. Then there is another rectangular feature, positioned further back at the approximate centre of gravity under the fuselage. The wings when viewed from the side are perfectly horizontal, but when seen from the front, they curve slightly downward. The elevators, which are right behind the wings, are positioned on a slightly higher horizontal level and are square-ended, thus a definite geometric shape. Above them is another rectangular shape, with a relief which may be reminiscent of knobs. The tail is equally intriguing. No fish has only a single, upright and perpendicular flange. But this tail fin has an exact shape of fins on modern airplanes. There are also some markings on the tail which are hard to identify, but it does not seem to be anything related to animals, either. The photos and enlarged outline of the object has been submitted for an analysis to several people from the field of aerodynamics. One of them was Arthur Young, a designer of Bell helicopters and other aircraft. His analysis confirmed that the object contains many features which would fit the airplane hypothesis, but there were several ones which would not fit that scenario. The wings do seem to be in the wrong place—they should be further forward so that their 1/4-chord coincides with the centre of gravity. The nose is not like anything on airplanes, as well. So, while the object is suggesting an airplane, some features would not seem to support this hypothesis.

But let's entertain several possibilities. If we imagine that the separation after the windshield is not a cockpit and that the pilot and the cargo were located somewhere in the main fuselage body, then we can envision the nose as something else. Let's assume that the nose is actually a jet. If the machine needs to slow down, the jet flow directed against the path of flight would accomplish just that. But how to re-direct the jet into the opposite direction? If we envision the nose as a movable part of the plane, turning around the point located where the nose and fuselage meet, thus pivoting the nose downward to tuck it under the fuselage, which would enable the desired effect. What's more, it will re-adjust the centre of gravity and the wings would be just in the right place for a high powered flight. Another problem, though, that does appear is the drag which would be created by the back of the nose now positioned in front. But that can be attributed to artistic license. That seems to be the case, because several other similar planes feature the back part of the nose tilted more forward, so the angle of the back of the nose when pivoted is more corresponding to aerodynamic principles.
All things considered, the object seems to represent a convertible type of craft, with two possible configurations—one for ascent when the nose is facing backwards, and the other for descent with the nose facing forward. One unsolved item remains—the spirals on the both wings and the nose. According to Amerindian iconography, these spirals have discernable meaning—they represent ascending and descending, depending on whether they are right-oriented or left-oriented, respectively. As the spirals are not only on wings but also on the nose, the meaning is fairly obvious—the wings and the nose (as much) were the features which were directly involved in ascent and descent. These are all possibilities.


There are other cultures which mention flying vehicles of some sort or another. The most known of these sources are Indian epics, especially the Mahábhárata and other Védic sources such as Bhágavata Purána and Rámáyana. The flying devices were called vimánas and were extensively discussed in Vaimánika Shástra, describing multitude of machines with different purposes and capabilities.
What we know about ancient Indian flying vehicles comes from ancient Indian sources; written texts that have come down to us through the centuries. There is no doubt that most of these texts are authentic; many are the well known ancient Indian Epics themselves, and there are literally hundreds of them. Most of them have not even been translated into English yet from the old Sanskrit. Too many to be co-incidence or hoaxed.
There has been said to be a secret society created by Indian Emperor Ashoka called the "Secret Society of the Nine Unknown Men" (yes I know, stupid title for a secret society): great Indian scientists who were supposed to catalogue the many sciences. Ashoka kept their work secret because he was afraid that the advanced science catalogued by these men, culled from ancient Indian sources, would be used for the evil purpose of war, which Ashoka was strongly against, having been converted to Buddhism after defeating a rival army in a bloody battle.
The "Nine Unknown Men" wrote a total of nine books, presumably one each. One of the Books number was "The Secrets of Gravitation!" This book, known to historians, but not actually seen by them dealt chiefly with "gravity control." It is presumably still around somewhere, kept in a secret library in India, Tibet or elsewhere (perhaps even in North America somewhere). One can certainly understand Ashoka's reasoning for wanting to keep such knowledge a secret, assuming it still exists (or ever did exist).

Ashoka’s reasons for keeping these secrets hidden from the world was based on the so-called "Rama Empire" of Northern India and Pakistan which developed at least fifteen thousand years ago on the Indian sub-continent and was a nation of many large, sophisticated cities, many of which are still to be found in the deserts of Pakistan, northern, and western India. Rama existed, apparently, parallel to the Atlantean civilization in the mid-Atlantic Ocean, and was ruled by "enlightened Priest-Kings" who governed the cities. The seven greatest capital cities of Rama were known in classical Hindu texts as "The Seven Rishi Cities."
According to ancient Indian texts, the people had flying machines which were called "Vimanas." The ancient Indian epic describes a Vimana as a double-deck, circular aircraft with portholes and a dome. Sound eerily familiar…who else is thinking of “flying saucers”?

It flew with the "speed of the wind" and gave forth a "melodious sound." There were at least four different types of Vimanas; some saucer shaped, others like long cylinders ("cigar shaped airships"). The ancient Indian texts on Vimanas are so numerous, it would take volumes to relate what they had to say. The ancient Indians, who manufactured these ships themselves, wrote entire flight manuals on the control of the various types of Vimanas, many of which are still in existence, and some have even been translated into English.
(I can hear a few people’s eyebrows going up and eyes rolling, go look it up people)
Now for some background on the great doubtful ruler himself:

Ashoka the Great (304 B.C.E. – 232 B.C.E) was an Indian emperor, ruling over a territory roughly corresponding to modern India, from Afghanistan in the north to the Kerala Coast in the south, grandson of Chandragupta, the first ruler to unify the Indian subcontinent.

Since there is a fair amount of documentary evidence about his life including his 33 Edicts, inscribed into stone pillars throughout his empire, proclaiming his devotion to Buddhist moral precepts, references to him in 2nd Century stories (Aśokāvadāna and  Divyāvadāna), and his appearance in the Sri Lankan Mahavamsa, we can be sure he was a real man, not myth and that he did exist.

He was so wonderful in fact that he killed 500 of his ministers over a loyalty oath, had a harem of 500 women some of whom he burned to death when they displeased him (he seemed to like the number 500 didn’t he?), built himself an intricate torture chamber for his own amusement (wonder if Vlad read about him), and was generally regarded as a brilliant military strategist, although leaning heavily towards the bloodthirsty side.

After the particularly nasty battle to conquer the Kalinga territory, resulting in the deaths of 100,000 soldiers, countless civilians, and 150,000 deportations, he seems to have had a moment of personal reflection while viewing the battlefield strewn with bloody corpses, of which he had been the cause. Thus Ashoka seems to have come to the conclusion that he was tired of being such an “unpleasant” man, commenting,

“What have I done? If this is a victory, what’s a defeat then?”
(Makes you wonder what he thought before this great massacre)

Anyway this is considered to be the catalyst for his conversion to Buddhism, and the benevolent reign of a new, less homicidal Ashoka.

So given the first half of his reign, which seem to have been quite an entertaining time, it stands to reason that Ashoka decided that some knowledge was simply too dangerous for humanity in their barbaric state (the information he seemed to be in possession of possibly was from the mythical Rama Empire, an Indian version of Atlantis), and created the secret society of the Nine Unknown Men dedicated to preserving the secrecy of knowledge that could lead to our destruction.

As I said before each of the Nine was tasked with guarding and adding to a particular realm of knowledge:

(1) Propaganda and Psychological Warfare
(2) Physiology
(3) Microbiology
(4) Alchemy
(5) Communication
(6) Gravitation
(7) Cosmology
(8) Light and
(9) Sociology

And no you didn’t read that list incorrectly, I said what I meant and meant what I said.

Various famous personages are said to have been in contact with the Nine (according to Jacques Bergier and Louis Pauwels, authors of the fascinating, if somewhat loopy Morning of the Magicians), including Pope Sylvester II, a French consul at Calcutta named Louis Jacolliot (1837-1890), a Pastuer collaborator named Alexandre Yersin, and a variety of important figures in Indian history.

So where is the proof that the Nine where in contact with notable persons of history?

Well Pope Sylvester II, born 920-12 May 1003, after his visit to India acquired various strange skills which astounded and stupefied his entourage. It is said and documented that he possessed a bronze head that answered yes or no to questions posed on politics or the general position of Christianity. Sylvester claimed it was a perfectly simple operation corresponding to a two-figure calculation and was performed by an automation similar to our modern binary machines. It was destroyed after his death.

So what was the Rama Empire, which I’m carrying on about exactly?


According to ancient Sanskrit texts like the Ramayana and Mahabahrata, the Rama Empire thrived thousands of years before the English believed a civilization even existed in the area. Current texts admit that this great civilization ended somewhere between 2,500 and 4,500 B.C.E. When did it all begin? Some Sanskrit scholars would say the Rama Empire thrived around 10-15,000 B.C.E and that only remnants survived the Great War that their history recorded.

In 1856 a group of English engineers in the British-dominated India where confronted with an incredible discovery. They had been seeking hard-to-find rocks to place under the railroad they were constructing and asked the locals for advice on where to look. The answer was an ancient deserted town nearby a place called Mohenjo-Daro, which translates to “Mound of the Dead”. The British found no such place marked as Mohenjo-Daro. Fortunately they decided to check the site that was described to them and discovered a lost city in the ruins under the dust. It was not until 1920 that Mohanjo-Daro was established as part of the seven great Rishi (Sanskrit for Master) cities of the ancient Rama Empire of the Indus Valley of ancient India.

Western archaeologists have long insisted that the tales of a technologically advanced civilization were merely figments of some over-imaginative Indian writer, but they will admit to being puzzled at the findings at Mohenjo-Daro and other Rishi cities.

The cities were highly developed with a great degree of pre-planning in streets, covered sewage systems, private toilets, running water to homes, remarkable plumbing and homes constructed of kiln-fired brick. This is more sophisticated than many of the cities in India, Pakistan and Asia today.

Mohenjo-Daro's "chief glory" was a complex system of drains that ran throughout the city. According to one scholar, "only the Romans, more than two thousand years later, had a comparable drainage system." Clay pipes carried dirty, used water from buildings on the citadel and homes in the lower city to the main sewer system that ran along the city streets. The water and other sewage were emptied into the Indus River. This sewer system made it possible for both the rich and the poor to have bathrooms in their homes. There does appear to be a public bathhouse which is quite usual and might even have been used for religious purification, one building had an underground furnace (known as ahypocaust), possibly for heated bathing. Most houses had inner courtyards, with doors that opened onto side-lanes. Some buildings had two stories. Also located throughout the city are deep wells, in which the people of Mohenjo-Daro stored their water.

So if we look at later civilizations such as England, more than 2000 years later, who were using chamber pots and walking with buckets to the nearest well for water, we are left wondering how everything went backward.

According to papers I’ve read on the actual excavation of the Mohenjo-Daro site there are a number of interesting facts. One of these is that the City has about seven strata. Now strata and stratum is exactly the same thing. This basically means it is the discernable layers of archaeological matrix or features revealed by excavations. Sedimentation thicker than 1 centimetre would be construed as a stratum. In such a layer one would find artefacts, skeletons and dwelling remains. It is more or less uniform or gradual, material, visually separable from one level to another by a discrete change in the type of makeup of material being deposited or a sharp break in deposition or both in fact. These layers could be determined by a change, however slight, in texture, colour or mineralogy. A break would mean, to me, a layer where there is no evidence of civilization being found and underneath that evidence of another period of civilization.

It is a well know fact in archaeology one civilization often builds on top of another, quite often aware of predecessors. It has even been known to happen that one civilization has made use of the foundations of other deceased cultures buildings as supports for its own.

During the excavations between the subsoil water and the summit of the mound no less than 7 strata were be identified; at late period which would be strata 1-3, Intermediary 4-6, and the current strata 7. Not only is there archaeological evidence currently being lost because there do not seem to be funds to preserve it but the underground water level appears to be rising. The water level is currently recorded at being 15 ft (-+ 4.6m) of the surface, this means that the water level was 10-15 ft (3- 4.6m) above ground level 5000 years ago. The latest 3 are distinguishable from its predecessors by increasing signs of decadence in the size of and construction of buildings, and that in some areas there is also a well defined break between the remains of the 3rd and 4th strata from the top of the city level which has been reduced to ruin. The lower strata levels show clear signs of kiln fired brick and heavy support systems that appear to have been an attempt to raise the city from the rising water level. When compared to the upper level of building done there seems to quite a difference as the upper brick work appears to be clay. The quality of pottery and art work seem to be higher and more detailed on the lower level. All this information tells us that the city was therefore destroyed and rebuilt at least 7 times and that the was also a definite decline in quality as well as possible ability. Many have marked the similarity in the city layout of Mohenjo-Daro and Harappa which leads to the postulation that there was some form of civic plan, therefore an administrative government for the area.

What is so special about kiln-fired brick? According to Jay Carrigan, the former VP of Alton Brick of Illinois,

"It requires 1,700-1,900 degrees of heat to bake the bricks. Currently a ceramic lining is used inside the ovens and the oven needs to withstand temperatures of 2,500 to 3,000 degrees".

So there is a definite decline in the society at Mohenjo-Daro, why this is no one seems to be able to explain. But all are in agreement there seems to be an attempt at raising the city from the underground water level as another much later strata shows where ruins of the city where actually filled in to raise the city level.

37 Skeletons where found on site, but from studies these seem to be at differing strata level. Although some sources claim 44 skeletons where found in very strange positions. From my research here I cannot really comment as most information written by the archaeologists themselves all confirm 37 and that they were found on at varying strata’s so the fact that this denoted a grizzly end does not seem to fit as some sources have stated. There are 3 sets of skeletons that baffle scientist and that is the remains of an elderly man, young woman and child. The three are holding hands but there are no signs of violence of any kind to say that they were in distress. Also the claim that the skeletons where found on what was once a street does not seem to be completely accurate either. The skeletons where found beneath what once was a street. So they seem to have been buried in this way. But those who found the skeletons all say one thing; the skeletons themselves are very baffling as except for these few there is no burial site/s, which to me does seem strange.

Now it gets even stranger, I have spent more hours trying to find a way not to mention the following and it has been frustrating beyond words, but for the sake of representing more than one view point I suppose I am obliged to add the information.

There is just too much information out there on the Mohenjo-daro and Harappa Ruins, most of the information state the following that the skeletons found show that people must have died suddenly but there is no sign of fighting and as there are so few skeletons, it does prove that all the inhabitants at Mohenjo-Daro had time to flee. There is a claim that one strata found contained clay and green glass. Green glass as per these sources are a result of intense sudden heat that lasts more or less for 5minutes. Also there has been talk of vitrification of soil and what appears to be small portions of walls. Now I have found credible sources that state that green glass is the result of sudden, extreme heat as well as vitrification of any surface. These reasons caused the hypothesis by David William Davenport and Ettore Vincenti to be that this had to have been caused by something like an Atom bomb. Based on the proof that green glass has been found to be formed after such an explosion, occurring as a result of melted clay. Radioactive dust has been found at other sites across a wide range of the section near Mohenjo-daro and Harappa according to these same sources. Some have also said that the bodies are well preserved and that there are no signs that they where scavenged, having said this adds to the theory of radioactivity, in addition that have stated that the ruins of Harappa are covered by radioactive dust. Also it is stated that another curious sign of an ancient nuclear war in India is a giant crater near Bombay.

The nearly circular 2,154-metre-diameter Lonar crater, located 400 kilometres northeast of Bombay and aged at less than 50,000 years old, could be related to nuclear warfare of antiquity it has been stated
No trace of any meteoric material, etc., has been found at the site or in the vicinity, and this is the world's only known "impact" crater in basalt. Indications of great shock (from a pressure exceeding 600,000 atmospheres) and intense, abrupt heat (indicated by basalt glass spherules) can be ascertained from the site.

But there are quite a few problems with these statements.


We need to keep in mind that these skeletons were found between 1922-1931, so this is over a period of time. And it is possible that the finds where not well researched or catalogued at the time as scholars have criticized the methodology of the dig at the time. As stated before those reputable scientists who wrote credible research paper on the subject all agree that these people did not all die at the same instant, but are scattered at different strata, meaning different levels in the city soil. So it is possible that these people could have died for any number of reasons that could have caused the inhabitants to flee that has nothing to do with ancient atomic warfare. Which include illness, evacuation of the city for a number of reasons including pending war or rising flood waters? What is clear, from studies of the Harappan site, is that Harappan society was not entirely peaceful, with the human skeletal remains demonstrating some of the highest rates of injury (15.5%) found in South Asian prehistory. Paleopathological analysis demonstrated that leprosy and tuberculosis were present at Harappa, with the highest prevalence of both disease and trauma present in the skeletons from Area G (a pit of skulls located south-east of the city walls). Furthermore, rates of cranio-facial trauma and infection increased through time, demonstrating that the civilization collapsed amid illness and injury.

The reasons for the preservation of the “bodies” could be the very hot climate. Which could cause the body to “dry out” faster reducing the effects of insects and lessening the opportunity for scavenges to desiccate the bodies. These are just observations of course. And it has already been clearly established that on some of the strata, there has been clear attempts at raising the ground level with clay and other supports

The only place I can find of there being mention made of green glass is on conspiracy sights and most of them seem to be “copy and paste” jobs from one particular site. Now I have nothing against conspiracy sites or alien theorists but I need some harder evidence than just some obscure quotes. If you look hard enough these theories usually fall apart.

An article by David Childress is many one of these sites; “Ancient Atomic Warefare” (access here) is one of the sites that claim that the presence of this type of glass is proof of that. Now I am no expert, but I can access experts, one of these claims is that desert glass found in some places also proves that Atomic warfare as well as the vitrification of walls in places like Scotland. And since I am one of those sceptical people I need more meat, I searched until I found these interesting articles explaining how these events could have occurred. As far as the finding of a yellow-green desert glass formation found in particular in the Libyan Desert nestled between 100 meter tall sand dunes in a remote part of southern Egypt a geologist attempts to explain some things about its formation. And talks about tektites (access here) apparently this type of glass has high silica content and forms on two occasions, during volcanic activity and during meteoric activity. He explains that it stands to reason that the Libyan Desert glass is a form of tektite, a natural forming glass. Volcanic tektite contains 50%-70% silica, whereas meteoric forming tektite has a much higher content. These types of tektite are much rarer and the Libyan glass samples that were tested have a silica content of 98%. According to the geologist this form of tektite is very much like high quality artificial glass in that it is very resistant to heat and will not melt until it reaches much higher temperatures. He does however admit that there is no proof of an impact creator at the Libyan site but I do tend to agree with him that after so many 100’s of years a meteor site would be difficult to find under desert sands. It does appear from his article that a meteor doesn’t have to actually impact to form such glass, but midair explosion of a meteor would cause the same effect. So my reasoning is this, it is possible in the Libyan desert and from mentions in his article and additional research there was an explosion in Tuguska, Siberia, in 1908 and once again there was the UFO theory and Atomic bomb. The description (here) by witnesses is very much like that of a nuclear explosion, but scientists have now come to the conclusion that a comet exploded mid air (here). So this is my theory that there was meteor activity at the Mohenjo-Daro and Marappa sites at some point in the past which might even be the reason the city was abandoned at one point.
And although the Lonar crater northeast of Bombay has been claimed by some so be very strange with no proof of how it came there, so it must be further proof of ancient atomic bomb, when in actuality Lonar Lake which lies within the only known extraterrestrial impact crater found within the great Deccan Traps  basaltic formation of India is proof of meteoric activity. The lake was initially believed to be of volcanic origin, but now it is recognized as an impact crater created by the hypervelocity impact of either a comet or a meteorite. The presence of plagioclase that has been either converted into maskelynite or contains planar deformation features (PDFs) has confirmed the impact origin of this crater. It is argued that only shock metamorphism caused by hypervelocity impact can transform plagioclase into maskelynite or create PDFs. The presence of shatter cones, impact deformation of basalt layers comprising its rim, shocked breccia inside the crater, and non-volcanic ejecta blanket surrounding the crater are further proof of the impact origin of Lonar crater. The crater has an oval shape. Meteorite impact came from the east, in a tilt of 35 - 40 degrees. There are various estimates of the age of impact crater. Earlier thermo luminescence analyses gave a result of 52 thousand years, while recent Argon-argon dating testifies that this crater is much older - it could be 570 000 ± 47 000 years old. This greater age is in line with the degree of erosion processes of crater rims.

Now as for the Vitrification of walls? Well, throughout Scotland you will find vitrified walls and forts. Most of these are pre-historic and according to sources they are notable for one reason, the rocks that make up the walls were originally stacked dry, with no mortar; but have been fused together into a solid surface through a process called vitrification, the transformation into glass. How can rock be melted into glass using prehistoric technology? As stated before some say that it can't because the temperatures required to do it are far too high, and that the only plausible explanation is an ancient atomic blast. The popularly given number of about sixty known examples in Scotland is correct. Some are small grassy lumps, hardly recognizable; some are large and exposed enough that visitors can walk right up and examine them. They're great, sloping piles of stone, often built on hilltops, and enclosing an area that we usually presume was to be defended. Timbers were often used to reinforce the walls from within, and from these timbers radiocarbon dating telling us when the forts were built. Most were built or repaired in various centuries during the first millennium B.C.E, around 700 to 300 B.C.E.

The vitrification is apparently not that easy to spot, it doesn't look like glass; it looks like the native white rocks embedded in a sort of darker asphalt. Sometimes there are lava-like bubbles in the darker vitrified stone, and sometimes there are solidified drips; but without knowing what you're looking at, it's unimpressive visually. If you do know what you're looking at, it's really something else. As I said this process takes a very high heat to accomplish this effect of melting stone and this wouldn’t have been possible during this time period would it? What we all need to remember is that the first millennium B.C.E was smack dab in the middle of the British Iron Age, a historical era named after the smelting of ore into iron this of course means that Metalworking, forging, and especially vitrification were well known to the people of the age. It was not a mysterious technology! The melting of rocks to serve the purposes of mankind was the technological focus of this particular period. And even in this early date, it was not a new concept. The Iron Age was preceded by the Bronze Age. Mankind had been melting ore for perhaps 10,000 years, ever since (nobody really knows for certain) accidental discoveries were made in pottery kilns. And this is the key word we are all forgetting, kilns.

We’ll get to why in a bit.

We often hear in reports, especially archaeology studies, of some cultures and their various methods for doing things, that it isn’t known how it was done.

But when this is said it doesn’t necessarily mean this in the literal sense. As per an archaeology site when the archaeologists studied the vitrified forts and report that “we don't know how they were made”, all that was meant was that it was unknown exactly what method was used. It was not meant that it is a surprising or inexplicable accomplishment just that any number of methods could have been used; they were not sure which. The vitrified rocks, as seen in Scotland, require about 1100°C to vitrify in the observed manner.
Various researches in the archaeology field found that some of these methods could be recreated:
The most famous experiment, widely trumpeted in virtually all writings about the vitrified forts, was performed in 1934 and repeated in 1937 by Wallace Thorneycroft and Vere Gordon Childe who built a fire against an experimental stone wall, built to the observed specifications. As described in the 1966-67 editions of The Proceedings of the Society of Antiquaries of Scotland:

The experimental wall was 6 ft. (1.8m) wide and 6ft. (1.8m) high, with horizontal timbers interlaced with stone slabs. After ignition through brushwood fires around the wall face, the wall began to burn and after three hours it collapsed. The core of basalt rubble became red hot, probably reaching 800 to 1200°C, and after excavation the bottom part of the rubble was found to be vitrified, with rock droplets and casts of timber preserved. The experiment proved that a timber-laced wall of this character could become vitrified through fire, but the explanation of the reasons for such widespread treatment of these Iron Age forts remains uncertain.
By that, they meant whether the vitrification was done deliberately by the builders, accidentally in a fire, or deliberately by attacking forces. 

Unfortunately this is an anthropological question, the certain answer to which is lost to history. Is it the result of an attack? Vitrification by attackers did not breach or destroy the walls, nor make them easier to scale. Builders may have done it on purpose; why, we don't know. It did not make the wall stronger or more difficult to breach. It was not always done; and even on most vitrified forts, it was usually done inconsistently in various patches. It could have been as simple as that the practice was traditional or ceremonial, or even merely aesthetic. It know it was done; archaeologists just are not sure why. All this suggests is that the reason is unknown, not that it was necessarily extraordinary.

According to some research pieces found, a number of evidence suggests that on a few forts, the vitrification was done from within the wall, during construction. Such walls were usually built with solid stone facings on the inner and outer sides, with rubble filling in the center. During construction, fires could have been built in the centre of the wall, covered with turf for insulation, and allowed to vitrify the stone faces. Rubble could then be filled in, and construction would move up to the next level where the process would repeat. Other vitrified walls show evidence that the fire was built against the outside of the wall, as Thorneycroft and Childe did in their test. Keep in mind also that Thorneycroft and Childe were archaeologists with minimal stone melting skills, while the men who vitrified the forts two and a half millennia before them were expert professionals whose knowledge was based on centuries of experience.
It's important to keep in mind that wherever an Iron Age fortification was under construction, the supporting infrastructure of workers and local people would certainly have included blacksmiths, whose furnaces of the day reached some 1300°C. There was no lack for expertise in the arts of building smelting fires or keeping them hot.

Therefore why is it that some people like David William Davenport and Ettore Vincenti when they looked at Mohenjo-daro began to think “Ancient Atomic War”? The inhabitants clearly knew how to use a kiln, as we have already noted the use of kiln-fired bricks and the fact that an underground furnace was found tells us, well me anyway, that it is quite possible that as those of the iron age in Scotland that these inhabitants might have also know about vitrification. Even just taking into account the intricate jewellery found at the Mohenjo-daro and Harappa sites says a great deal about this society.

For some reason it seem that some researches have taken things completely out of context or singled something out for their own purposed, even though it is easy to so how one could see the inexplicable nature of these finds when looked at in their abundant occurrence in a society which many have thought never to have existed or should not have had, as far as our knowledge, the capacity for these things. Both Davenport and Vincenti have written books on the atomic war theory in ancient times as well as in support or as proof of alien interference…

What also seems to have fuelled their ideas as well as others are extracts from Sanskrit texts concerning the Rama Empire. These amazing cities, because of their very apparent advancement that seems to have disappeared with time and since no one has yet found reason why has fuelled the atomic war thoery. What is even more baffling is how the ancient Sanskrit texts say the civilization of the Rama Empire ended and since Mohenjo-daro and Harappa have been equated with this empire one begins to understand the reasoning a great deal better.

According to the texts a great war erupted between the Rama Empire and a more militaristic group called the Atlans (some say this is the lost city of Atlantis because according to literature during Atlantis’ peak it was a very military based society that expanded greatly because of its military prowess and it seems that the only reason the expansion was stopped was because of their sudden extinction). The Asvin Priest Kings of the Rama Empire were forced to use their mental-psychic powers to create a defensive illusion. While this tactic was successful at first, the Atlans persisted and returned with their ultimate weapon. This weapon is described as Kapillas Glance in both theMahabaharata and Drona Parva.

It was described,

"A single projectile, charged with all the power of the universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as the thousand suns rose in all its splendour. It was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death which reduced the entire race of the Vrishnis and Andhakas to ashes. The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. The hair and the nails fell out. Pottery broke without apparent cause and the birds turned white. After a few hours all the foodstuffs were infected. To escape from this fire, the soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment."

Sounds like a nuclear blast doesn’t it?
Yet the evidence is also there that it might be something a lot simpler.

And as for the Radio active Ash found at the Rajasthan site west of Jodhpur…well although there does not seem to be anyone who has  even begun to debunk this very long string of self- professed truth sayers.

Medical reports for the entire Rajasthan area, as is correctly reported on numerous sites, are reported having a high rate of birth defects and cancer. Unfortunately not due to any form of nuclear fall out, this area is an agricultural district. Farmers use a high rate of unregulated pesticides, some cases 923g/ha, which is above the national usage of 570g/ha. The use of fertilizer is also sky-high according to the National Centre for Agriculture, Economics and Policy research.

Adding to the contaminated water with high heavy-metal toxicity and the fact that some families store water and food in empty pesticide containers and you have a lethal mix.

It is also reported that the ash covered a three-square mile area (more copy and paste in my opinion). What everyone is forgetting, drum roll please, is that the Indian government has used the Rajasthan area for nuclear testing. The first of such tests which took place on 18 May 1974.

Excavation sites that can be found in the area surrounding Rajasthan and Jodhpur are vast. Kilibangon 29.67 °N; 74.12 °E and Osian which is west of Jodhpur, being a major religious centre because of the ruined temples dating back to 8th and the 11th centuries. And of course my favourite Kuldhara.

Just as important, Davenport and Vincenti were not scientist but researchers. Neither where experts in any field, and neither where their claims substantiated by scientific findings but rather by what they saw.

Although some people have jumped to some vast conclusions, there is proof that our ancestors defiantly had knowledge that was forgotten and had to be rediscovered. There’s testament to this lost and forgotten knowledge all around the world. Some we might never discover again. Stonehenge still baffles and the pyramids in Egypt still confound archaeologists and scientist of all forms, we have theories why the pyramids where built, we know important persons where supposed to be buried here, but this still does not seem to be the full function of these monoliths. If we look at The Pyramids of Giza especially the Great Pyramid. The stones where supposed to have been chiselled with stools of copper and stone yet how these stones were lifted and placed so precisely has still never been completely solved. The Great Pyramid is the most remarkable building in existence on the face of our planet today. It was built with such precision that our current technology cannot replicate it, yes you heard right. This pyramid is so precisely constructed that until recently (with the advent of laser measuring equipment) scientists were not able to discover some of its subtle symmetries (not to mention duplicate them). Among other aspects, there are also very exact geometric relationships between all the structures in the pyramid complex at Giza.

The pyramid is estimated to have about 2,300,000 stone blocks weighing from 2-30 tons (1814- 27215 kg) each with some weighing as much as 70 tons (63503 kg). There is so much stone mass in the pyramid that the interior temperature is constant and equals the average temperature of the earth, 20°C. The base of the pyramid covers 55,000m² with each side greater than 20,000m² in area. The outer mantle was composed of 144,000 casing stones, all highly polished and flat to an accuracy of 1/100th of an inch, about 100 inches thick and weighing about 15 tons (13608 kg) each. The average casing stone on the lowest level was 5 ft (1.5 m) long by 5 ft (1.5 m). high by 6 ft (1.8 m) deep and weighed 15 tons
(13608 kg). The mortar used is of an unknown origin. It has been analyzed and its chemical composition is unknown and it can't be reproduced. It is stronger than the stone and still holding up today. There is a theory that has been floating around and was first suggested in the 1930, that some of the stone block used in building the Pyramids of Giza were cast not cut. Linn Hobbs, professor of materials science and engineering and professor of nuclear science and engineering at MIT and co-teacher of the pyramid-building class which attempted to test the block casting theory in 2008 stated that the idea was so controversial that you couldn’t get research funding and it was difficult getting a paper through peer review.

The Great Pyramid was originally encased in highly polished, smooth white limestone and capped, according to legend, by a perfect pyramid of black stone, probably onyx. Covering an area of 22 acres (8hecters), the white limestone casing was removed by an Arab sultan in AD 1356 in order to build mosques and fortresses in nearby Cairo. According to our present knowledge the Great Pyramid is mostly solid mass; it’s only known interior spaces being the Descending passage (the original entrance), the Ascending passage, the Grand Gallery, a mysterious grotto, an equally mysterious subterranean chamber, and the two main chambers. These two chambers, called the King's Chamber and the Queen's Chamber, have unfortunately retained the misleading names given to them by early Arab visitors to the pyramid as no king or queen ever had been buried here.

The mathematical complexity, engineering requirements, and sheer size of the Giza plateau pyramids represent an enormous, seemingly impossible leap in abilities over the third dynasty buildings. Contemporary Egyptological explanation cannot account for this leap, nor can they account for the clear decline in mathematics, engineering and size of the constructions of the fifth dynasty. Textbooks speak of "religious upheaval" and "civil wars," but there is no evidence whatsoever of these having occurred. The cornerstone foundations of the pyramid have ball and socket construction capable of dealing with heat expansion and earthquakes, something that we have only in recent years re-discovered. There are no hieroglyphics or writing in the Great Pyramid.

In March 2008, on the north cliff of Giza’s plateau, Andrew Collins a British explorer discovered an entrance, more a large crack, to underground caves beneath the pyramids of Giza. He tracked down the caves after reading the memoirs of 19th century diplomat and explorer General Henry Salt. It documents his exploration of the underground catacombs in 1817 in the company of Italian explorer Giovanni Caviglia. According to Collins the entrance enters a natural cave and they explored it until the air became too thin. He stated that the cave was highly dangerous, with unseen pits and hollows, colonies of bats and venomous spiders. He believes that these system of caves to be thousands if not tens of thousands of years old and might have been the reason for the building of the pyramid field.

"Ancient funerary texts clearly allude to the existence of a subterranean world in the vicinity of the Giza pyramids," Collins told Discovery News

Giza was indeed known anciently as Rostau, meaning the "mouth of the passages."
This is the same name as a region of the ancient Egyptian underworld known as the Duat.

In the section of the caves that were explored by Collins and his team, and where it has been recorded that mummified birds were found which have lead them to the tentative idea that the bird cult made use of these caves. Andrew Collins stated that since the Tomb of the Birds was approximately 517 yards
(473 meters) from the northwest corner of the Second Pyramid, he suspected that it was into this area that Salt and Caviglia journeyed underground in 1817, this distance constituted the "several hundred yards" they travelled before reaching the reported spacious chambers, from which went other passages. If so, then this is a very interesting realisation it is taken into account that the Sabaean belief was that the Second Pyramid marked the position of the cave-tomb of Hermes. 

It is hightly possible that the bird cult which was once associated with this site honoured Hermes, the Graeco-Egyptian form of the Egyptian god Thoth, the keeper of ancient records and guardian of the ancient wisdom. If this hypothesis is correct then future excavations inside the tomb and caves might well reveal that the bird mummies purportedly left here were as ritual offerings (and found by Vyse and Perring in 1837) contained the remains of ibises, a bird sacred to Thoth-Hermes. If the birds found here were not ibises, but raptors, such as hawks and falcons, then the cult was probably that of Sokar, the guardian of the Duat of Memphis, or Rostau, the ancient name for Giza. Either solution will go some way to prove that the Tomb of the Birds was seen as an entrance into a cave underworld.
Dr. Zahi Hawass, chief of Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities, has dismissed the discovery.

"There are no new discoveries to be made at Giza. We know everything about the plateau," he stated.


Yet there seems to be proof against this statement as not only did the Second Pyramid mark the location of the hidden cave-tomb of Hermes in medieval Sabaean tradition, but in 1977 a scientific survey conducted jointly by the Stanford Research Institute (SRI) and the Ain Shams University, Cairo, used ground penetration radar (GPR) equipment to search for subterranean structures beneath the plateau at Giza. Aside from some interesting discoveries in the area of the Sphinx, the team, under the leadership of geophysicist Lambert T. Dolphin, detected the presence of previously unknown chambers in the vicinity of the Second Pyramid. One, at least, was situated beneath Belzoni's Chamber inside the structure, while another was found beneath the monument's northwest corner on the west side (Dolphin, 1977). Radar satellite imagery of the Giza plateau created by the TerraSAR-X satellite, launched in 2007 and operated jointly by Astrium GmbH and the German Aerospace Centre (DLR), shows a shadow line, running from the proximity of the Tomb of the Birds towards the south, that corresponds pretty well with the positioning beneath the ground of the caves explored so far. Additionally, the 1977 team noted the presence of localized faulting on the northwest corner of the Second Pyramid, adding weight to the conclusion that the shadow lines shown on the TerraSAR-X radar satellite imagery of 2007 really do record the presence of either sub-surface or subterranean geological features. Yet, strangely, nothing is visible on the ground in the corresponding Google satellite image taken, coincidentally, around the same time in 2007, making this shadow line a mystery, especially as the TerraSAR-X satellite programme is promoted as being able to detect underground features.

More incredible is the fact that the shadow line on the TerraSAR-X radar satellite image seems to connect with another wider shadow line that starts at a position corresponding to a gully in the plateau's northern cliff, just west of the Tomb of the Birds, and curves towards the Second Pyramid, where it is finally lost from sight on the north side of the monument's square base. Once again, there are no visible features on the corresponding Google satellite map to explain this anomaly (actually, a second, more fainter, shadow line is also seen on the radar satellite image. It commences in the proximity of the caves explored so far and curves towards the Second Pyramid, where it is lost, finally, as it approaches the west side of the pyramid).
The section of the TerraSAR-X radar satellite image of the Giza plateau shows a shadow line corresponding to the course of the cave tunnels explored to date (picture : Strium GmbH and the German Aerospace Centre [DLR])

The strange things that keep cropping up with the pyramids, not just Giza, but all around the world astounds and would fill numerous pages if I allowed myself the luxury, but Giza more than others. Let me permit myself one last thing about Giza, in 1872 shafts were found which lead from the Queens Chamber of Khafu (the Great Pyramid) upward by Waynman Dixon an engineer who had been requested by the Astronomer Royal of Scotland, Piazzi Smyth, to undertake some casual exploration of the pyramid. It seems that Dixon reasoned that if there where shafts in the King’s Chamber there had to be shafts in the Queens chamber as well (the Egyptian builders do seem to have been consistent after all), after examining the walls of the Chamber he found a creak in one of the blocks and realised that it was hollow. Breaking through it, they now found the shaft except that it didn’t seem to go very far but in it was a small bronze hook. On the opposite northern wall a replica shaft was found this also did not raise up very far and in this shaft Dixon and an associate, James grant, found a piece of ceder like wood with notches carved in it as well as a granite ball. The shafts were left unexplored until 1993 as there was no way to explore it. And the builders of the pyramid had blocked these shafts and it was believed to be completely closed off. As for the artefacts, which became known as the Dixon Relics, they went missing for a 100years. Mr. Dixon had them taken to England by his older brother John Dixon, an engineer as well, from there the relics were sent to Piazzi Smyth who recorded them in his diary, they were subsequently returned to John Dixon who arranged for details and drawings of the objects to be published in the science journal “Nature” and the London paper “The Graphic” in December 1872 and then later they seem to be mentioned one last time by Piazzi Smyth. After this they simply seem to have been forgotten, until in 1972 with the discovery and news reports of the Tomb of Tutankhamun and the subsequent exhibition, Mrs. Elizabeth Porteous, a great granddaughter of John Dixon, recalled the relics she had inherited and donated them to the British Museum where they were catalogued and once again completely forgotten. By the time they were re-discover, after much searching as no one remembered the relics donation, in 1993 the piece of wood had been lost. It remained lost until 2001 when it was traced to Marischal Museum in Aberdeen, Scotland, we can only guess how it got there.

Now the shafts of the pyramid are a mystery, there are a few that lead from the Kings chamber to the outside and archaeologists assume that it was used for ventilation for the workers working on the inside of the structure. But no on is really sure of their purpose. Besides the two in the Kings chamber there are two in the Queens chamber as well, one in the northern Wall and one in the opposite Southern wall. Where as the shafts in the King chamber lead outward, the shafts in the Queens chamber has been closed off so the seem to run no where. In 1992 Dr. Hawass made the decision to close the Great Pyramid to visitors to begin a project to reduce the humidity and damage caused by salt that is produced in the chambers of the pyramid by the breathing and perspiration of visitors. The shafts in the kings chamber where cleared, they are 20cm wide and 14cm high, ventilation equipment was then installed in these shafts. A robot was used to inspect these shafts first and as it was so successful that it was decided to use the robot to inspect the shafts in the Queens chamber as well, in 1992 the Gantenbrink robot was used. The Robot was able to climb 60m, where it encountered a barricade - a limestone “door” with two copper handles! After making this remarkable find, the robot was sent into the northern shaft. At 18 meters, the robot encountered a bend of about 45 degrees to the left, and was unable to go any further. Gantenbrink returned to Germany, and a team had to be found with a robot equipped to navigate the bend. The National Geographic Society agreed to collaborate with the SCA on developing a new robot to explore the shafts in the Great Pyramid. A firm from Boston, USA, was brought in to design the machine, called iRobot. Finally, in 2002, this robot was sent into the southern shaft and was able to drill a small hole in the limestone blocking. Everyone was amazed when a small camera inserted into the hole revealed a second stone “door” blocking the passage about 20 cm beyond the first one! The second door was unlike the first. It looks as if it is screening or covering something, and there were cracks all over its surface. This same robot was also able to explore the northern Queen’s Chamber shaft, navigating the sharp bend to the left. It discovered two further, smaller bends to the right at about 23 and 25 meters. It was realized that the reason for all of the turns in the northern shaft was that if it had been made straight, it would have crossed paths with the Grand Gallery. The builders had to add the bends to avoid this. Finally, at a distance of about 65 meters from the Queen’s Chamber, the robot found a door very similar to the first one in the southern shaft! The copper handles in the first doors in both the north and south shafts are similar to those on the canopic box of Tutankhamun in the Egyptian Museum Cairo, which were used to pull the box. The doors themselves are made of fine white limestone from Tura, and it seems as thought the handles might have been used to pull them into place. There are many thoughts on the reasons for shafts in the tombs one of which is that the shafts are a way for the soul of the pharaoh to leave the pyramid but then why are there these doors present in the Queens Chamber. It is written in the Pyramid Texts that the king will face bolted doors before beginning his journey and the doors with handles on them have been give as possible explination for this. Yet then why is the Queens chamber shafts the ones with the doors and not the kings chamber? The Great pyramid is also the only pyramid with these hidden shafts and strange doors. Also there are as stated before no hieroglyphs’ of any kind in the great pyramid and there is no proof that any rulers’ remains have ever been buried there. The second door has todate never been breached, Dr. Hawass stated that a 3rd team would be appointed for this task between 2009-2010, to date this is yet to be accomplished.




The intricacies of The Great Pyramid are so many and the secrets it still guard would allow for many more pages (another blog I’d love to do in future). In the last few years, when people began to think there was nothing left to discover these great structures unveil the unexpected. Subterranean chambers we knew nothing about, internal chambers that no one can get to or explain why they exist.

Again I ask where did this knowledge go, let alone come from. Why did it seemingly disappear from the face of the planet?

While researching the nephilim I found even more strange mentions in history that either no one thought to point out or maybe we just skim over it. And as it turns out fact is definitely stranger than fiction.

I know many will wonder how these strange wonders of our world can possibly link up to the story of the nephilim, I am not going to tell you how to do this. But I will present some of the facts and stories I have come across that just simply leave one scratching ones head and wondering how in the name of heaven I managed to miss it.
In truth the world of giants has always existed. Archaeology and palaeontology have proven this. The environmental conditions of that early world would exercise the full genetic viability of all life forms. There is evidence that the earth supported plant and animal life of fantastic size and numbers. The fossil record shows that all terrestrial life has decreased in size. The largest members of the animal kingdom are either becoming extinct, or shrinking as if touched by a magic wand. Mammals were often twice the size of their current counterparts. There were kangaroos as large as today's hippopotamuses, with skulls a meter long. Sheep were as big as today's horses. Frogs were 2 to3 meters, with heads half a meter long - and jaws more powerful than those of a modern ox. Fossil eagles have been found; these birds were 13 meters long and 4 meters high. Oh yes, and lobsters 2 meters long, now that’s a crustacean I wouldn’t want to meet. Australian koalas were as big as rhinos. In the northwest of South Australia, between 500 and 1,000 skeletons were found of a colossal wombat as large as a rhinoceros! It was given the name Diprotodon. In New Zealand, zoologists from Christchurch chipped out of a cave roof the fossil skeleton of a penguin 2.2 meters tall. On the Matakaoa foreshore, near Te Araroa, were found preserved prints of a huge animal. The prints extended for some distance. Some were 70 cm in breadth. Personnel at the Dominion Museum suggested the tracks might be those of either the Megatherium or the Labrynthodon, huge mammals estimated to have weighed up to 30 tons (27215 kg).
They did exist, that is the most amazing thing and if they had not become smaller with time we would be way at the bottom of the food chain. We also know that three types of humans once inhabited the earth during the same time period.
Traditions drawn from the racial memory of races worldwide state that the very first people on earth were mighty and of immense stature, but that they later degenerated in size and vigour.
For example, the present day Kotoko people of Chad, Africa, claim that their ancestors were giants.
"In those days men were so tall they could look over the trees," they say.
"Men twice as tall as us" once inhabited the "realm of delight", claim stories of old China, but they lost it by not living "by laws of virtue".
“God was angry with the giants”, say the Montagnais Indians of Canada, “and sent a flood upon them”.
It is a fact that the whole world seems to enshrine ancestral memories of giants. One could cite scores of such legends, from everywhere.

These are more than just biblical stories of Giant Babylonians, and the account of Enoch, these are stories, myths that span the globe.

BABYLON:
The Babylonian Talmud mentions a prehistoric race of giants who had double rows of teeth.

INDIAN RECORDS:
The Danavas and Daityas were giants, as were the Rakshasas of the Hindu epic.

TIBET:
The medical lamasery in Tibet claims that long ago Tibet was peopled by a giant race [males averaging 15 ft (4.6m) in height; females averaging 12 ft (3.6m) in height].

ABORIGINES, AUSTRALIA:
The secret city of Burrunga in Australia's northern hinterlands was inhabited by gigantic white men with red hair.

(Now this is even stranger…white men with red hair? Which nation do we know of that fits this description?)

MAORIS, NEW ZEALAND:
Tamatekapua, lord of the Arawa Maori migration, now buried on Mt Moehau, Coromandel Peninsula, was 9 ft (2.7m) tall.

USA:
Some Indian tribes worshipped "men of huge stature" who inhabited the region before they arrived.

(Yes the native Americans were also not native to the US)

AZTECS, MEXICO:
Xelua and his brother giants survived the world flood and built a pyramid to reach the clouds.
MAYA, GUATEMALA; INCAS, PERU:
The first race created by the gods before the Flood were giants. Two prominent giants were Atlan [Atlas?] and Theitani [Titan?]
(Anything tickling you yet? Is it just me or do there somehow seem to be links forming??)

And my two favourites:
QUICHUA INDIANS, PERU:
Long ago a race of giant men came from the Pacific Ocean in ships, invaded the lowlands of old Peru, forcing the Inca high up into their mountain strongholds in the Andes. These giants were so huge that "from the knee down, they were as tall as a tall man".

TWO INCA LEGENDS, PERU:
The city of Tiahuanaco in Bolivia was built by survivors of the Flood; it was built by giants.
A manuscript called The Apocalypse of Baruch, a pseudepigraphical work written around C.E (A.D) 100 and preserved only in the sixth-century Syriac Vulgate (and which seems a little unclear in parts) appears to hint at the origin of giants:
"Men began as giants. These first giants were very highly developed, intellectually, artistically and physically: they had power over birds and animals… they misbehaved and were abolished by God, and ordinary men took their place…"
So many of the legends recall that mankind also lived far longer - even hundreds of years.
Anyone else notice the similarities, from the previous topic?

This common legend is so wide spread that only two reasons are possible. That as different races interacted they interchanged mythologies, yet some of these races only came into contact with one another many hundreds of years later and there is documented proof that dates back to before any contact could have been made. Second reason could be that the giants of myth spread throughout the then known world, either running from the flood spreading their story or that those that somehow survived still continued to rule the earth.

On October19, 1984, in Nairobi, Kenya, museum director Richard Leakey showed off an ancient skeleton of a 12 year old boy. Commenting on widely held scientific beliefs that man's ancestors were smaller than modern man, Leakey said: "This specimen confirms early hints that Homo erectus (upright human), [sometimes divided further into Homo ergaster (working human)], individuals were fully as tall as modern people. We can now ask if any modern populations are smaller than their early ancestors and if so why." (The Sun, Melbourne, Australia, October 20, 1984).

A similar assessment of ancient man was reported in Time magazine: "Taking a fresh look at the… fossils… Weidenreich [of Manhatten's American Museum of Natural History] now believes that 'gigantism and massiveness may have been a general or at least a widespread character of early mankind.'" (Time, July 3, 1944)

There are two divergent views concerning giant men.

1. The evolutionary approach is that from a savage and primitive start, isolated animals developed into cavemen, who, by trial and error, will eventually become supermen. Giants never existed, because there have been no fossil finds from which we can infer the existence of such a race.

2. A totally opposite claim comes from those who accept the Bible as factually true.
They claim that from a higher, blissful condition, man has fallen and has deteriorated. They insist that man was created with a noble physique and a powerful brain, which have degenerated through wrong living.
Originally, "there were giants." They overran the earth with "mighty" wonders. A cosmic disaster (known as the Deluge, or the Great Flood) intervened. It wiped out that original world, and drastically altered the topography, fertility and climate of the planet.
In the impoverished environment which followed the Deluge, degeneration was accelerated. However, for some time there persisted a significant, though decreasing proportion of mankind who retained enormous stature.
Their intellect and physique remains legendary.


In the 1879 autobiography of Bill Cody of Buffalo Bill fame, Cody and his friends were five miles above Ogallala on the South Platte when a Pawnee Indian came to their camp with the bones of a giant. The surgeon in their group confirmed one of the bones to be a human thigh bone. Then the Indian related to them a curious legend.

According to Buffalo Bill's own account,
"The Indians claimed that the bones they had found were those of a person belonging to a race of people who a long time ago lived in this country. That there was once a race of men on the earth whose size was about three times that of an ordinary man, and they were so swift and powerful that they could run along-side of a buffalo, and taking the animal in one arm could tear off a leg and eat the meat as they walked. These giants denied the existence of a Great Spirit so he caused a great rain-storm to come, and the water kept rising higher and higher so that it drove those proud and conceited giants from the low grounds to the hills, and thence to the mountains, but at last even the mountain tops were submerged, and then those mammoth men were all drowned. After the flood had subsided, the Great Spirit came to the conclusion that he had made man too large and powerful, and that he would therefore correct the mistake by creating a race of men of smaller size and less strength. This is the reason, say the Indians, that modern men are small and not like the giants of old, and they claim that this story is a matter of Indian history, which has been handed down among them from time immemorial."
(William Cody, Buffalo Bill: Autobiography) This Indian legend agrees with the biblical explanation concerning long-lived giants.

There is no physical barrier for giant humans to have existed in the past. There have been giant plants, giant insects, giant reptiles, mammals, birds and fish. Why not also giant humans?
The fact of giants need not be surprising. The race was much purer and therefore physically healthier than now.

It may be asked: Would not a gigantic body function less efficiently, on the basis of gravity?
Such an argument must be dismissed as speculative. The fundamental characteristics of gravity still elude analysis by modern physics. A number of scientists believe that electromagnetic energy supersedes the orthodox law of gravity, and can neutralize gravity. Such forces may well have operated on living organisms, including men, to an even more significant degree before the Flood. From facts to hand, one is led to ask: Could it be that conditions governing biological equilibrium (air pressure, gravity, etc.) were different from what they later became?

There is abundant evidence that the world was in much better condition in the beginning. The climate and environment both on the land and in the sea enabled creatures to live long ages and reach huge sizes. Evidently, when the book of Genesis tells us, "there were giants in the earth in those days" (Genesis 6:4), (after the floor) it is recording not myth, but fact.
Today, abnormally oversized humans are nearly always recognisable as such, because their height is often gained at the expense of their build (as in giantism). Apparently, ancient giants possessed a build in balanced proportion to their height.

Building and other Artefacts
The idea of giant men in the past is compatible with enormous artefacts left behind, including buildings.
For example:
ECUADOR
An ancient metal crown was been discovered, in Ecuador. This crown is gigantic - made for a head many times larger than that of a modern person.

PELOPANNESUS, GREECE:
A door 18 ft (5.49m) high surmounted by a 100 ton stone crosspiece 30 ft (9m) long.

EL ENLADRILLADO, CHILE:
Stone chairs which suggest shin bones 13 ft (3.96m) long

NORTH OF PUERTO RICO:
A mammoth staircase, with steps 7 ft 10 inches apart (3.03m), descending 5 miles (8km) into the deep sea, and cut into the continental shelf (constructed when this area was above sea level).

ANCIENT BASHAN, SYRIA:
Interior and exterior doors 9 ft (9.74m) high and 4 ft (1.22m) wide, some of them cut out from one solid stone
TIAHUANACO, BOLIVIA:
Gateway carved from a single block of stone 10 ft (3.04m) high and over 6 ft (1.83m) wide.
The ruins of Tiahuanaco comprise what was once a whole city built on the scale of people whose average height was gigantic, between 10 ft (3.04m) and 12 ft (3.66m).


Enormous buildings and monoliths are found almost all over the world - impossible to explain unless by the fact that these men were giants or had techniques unknown to us.

Strange City

In the western Pacific Ocean some 1000 miles (1600 km) northeast of Papua New Guinea lie the islands of the Federated States of Micronesia. One of the islands of this group (formerly the Caroline Islands) is Pohnpei Island. On the southeast corner of this small volcanic island lies an immense, ancient megalithic stone city, 28 km in size, called Nan Modal.

Considered to be one of the greatest archaeological wonders of the world, it is the only ancient city ever built atop a coral reef, and, like Easter Island, it is an engineering marvel.
Built out onto a coral reef and intersected by artificial canals. It has been labelled "Venice of the Pacific". There are 90 to 100 artificial islands in the central 2.5 square km of Nan Modal. The megalithic structures were constructed primarily with basalt logs, a volcanic rock that breaks naturally to form long blocks, then stacked horizontally, log cabin style to form walls as high as 50 ft (15m) and up to 17 ft (5.2m) thick. Each of these islands is made up of giant basalt logs with and average weight of 5 tons (4536kg)each, some of the stones weigh up to 25 tons (22680 kg) the total weight of the columnar basalt that make up the city’s construction is up to750,000 metric tons. Walls reach 30 ft (10 meters) high.
This is all the more remarkable when we consider that today many of the island's inhabitants live in grass huts.
The name Nan Madol means “spaces between” and refers to the canals that criss-cross the ruins. However, its traditional name was Soun Nan-leng (Reef of Heaven), according to Gene Ashby in his book Pohnpei, An Island Argosy.

The stones and columns are so heavy that conventional and mainstream scholars have yet to conclude how it was built and who built them. Probable quarry sites around the island have been identified, but the exact origin of the stones used in the construction of Nan Madol is yet to be determined. Radio carbon dating and archaeological excavations puts Nan Madol to be as old as 200 B.C.E. It has been determined that the stones are not natural but instead, man-made and certainly did not come from the immediate area. Therefore, there is no logical explanation as to the origin of the massive hexagonal shaped stones. Scientific theory suggests the stones were brought from the mainland using bamboo rafts to float them across the water. However, in 1995 while making a documentary movie for the Discovery Channel, all attempts to transport stones weighing more than a ton in this fashion failed. Nan Madol, which means “between spaces,” lives up to its nickname as it does seems to be lodged in between truth and myth. What mainstream scholars cannot explain, locals myths can. No written records on the islands history exist and it has been kept alive by word of mouth only. The local practice of keeping secrets is sacred and is one of the obstacles to learning more about their history. Most Pohnpeians believe the legend that Nan Madol began with the arrival of twin sorcerers Olisihpa and Olosohpa from the mythical Western Katau. The twins were said to be much taller than native Pohnpeians. The brothers sought a place to build an altar so that they could worship Nahnisohn Sahpw, the god of agriculture. The two sorcerers successfully built an altar at Nan Madol, where they performed rituals to levitate the huge stones with the aid of a flying dragon. When Olisihpa died of old age, Olosohpa became the first Saudeleur.

Among the many mysteries of Nan Madol are the strange mineral findings. Contained within the rock basalt of Nan Madol are large crystals, which are highly magnetized. These heavy basalt crystals are so magnetized that compasses spin out of control when held near the walls.

Nobody knows who the builders of this ancient city were - but the bones of humans, which were MUCH LARGER than the Micronesians who live there now, were apparently discovered and excavated at Nan Modal.
You can motor through the city by launching at high tide. The canals are 30 ft (9 meters) wide and at high tide 1.5meters deep (although filled with silt).
The occasional cry of a bird can be heard in the swamp. Fruit bats fly overhead. The ruins are eerie - deserted and silent. To think that this was once a bustling, thriving city of canals! Most natives keep away. They think ghosts haunt the islands and canals. At its peak Nan Modal was inhabited by no more than 1000 people, there is no freshwater on the islands or food as it in the middle of the ocean. The Priest-kings relied on those from the mainland whom they governed to supply these necessities

Next to Nan Madol on the southeast corner of Pohnpei is Madolinihmw Harbor, which is known to contain underwater columns in a straight row and assorted sunken ruins, including a so-called “castle,” 60 meters down in murky water.

In recent years, the Universities of Ohio and Oregon and the Pacific Studies Institute (Honolulu) have undertaken expeditions. Giant stone columns were discovered submerged, as well as a system of tunnels through the coral reef.

Swimming along the underwater streets among sharks, author and adventurer David Childers found columns up to four stories high in 60 to 100 ft (18.3 to 30.5 m) of water. There was evidence of ruins descending to depths of over 200 ft (61m). His team discovered underwater inscriptions – “geometric designs such as crosses and rectangles.”

Aerial photographs reveal straight lines running hundreds of metres and turning at right angles in the coral reef, forming what appear to be city blocks encrusted with coral. Japanese pearl divers claim to have seen buildings, streets and sunken columns encrusted with coral in the deep waters off Nan Madol.


These sunken cities are all over our globe. Rising sees have covered them over hundreds of years and sinking land has plummeted them to the depths of the oceans.
Off Morocco, on the Mediterranean side of Gibraltar, marine archaeologist Dr. J. Thorne has investigated an undersea wall. The wall extends for 9 miles (14 km) atop a submerged mountain 120 ft (36m) below the surface. Some of its stones are each larger than 2-story houses (about as large as those used in the gigantic foundation of the Baalbek temple of Lebanon). Dr. Thorne observed roads going down the mountain further into unknown depths.

Under the waters of Scotland’s Loch Ness, sonar photography has traced ancient stone ruins. Unlike most lakes, Loch Ness connects underground to the sea. These ruins were evidently submerged as the sea level rose to form the lake.

In 1970, Dr. Ray Brown of Mesa, Arizona, and four other divers, was off the Berry Islands of the Bahamas when their compasses went berserk and their magnometers failed. Suddenly they saw the outlines of buildings under the water. Diving down to investigate, Dr. Brown recalls:

“I turned to look toward the sun through the murky water and saw a pyramid shape shining like a mirror. About thirty-five to forty ft from the top was an opening. I was reluctant to go inside… but I swam in anyway. The opening was like a shaft debouching into an inner room. I saw something shining. It was a crystal, held by two metallic hands. I had on my gloves and I tried to loosen it. It became loose. As soon as I grabbed it I felt this was the time to get out and not come back.” (Ibid., pp.104ff)












This story originated from claims made by Dr. Brown that aired on the History channel. There are not enough facts about this find to say neither that it is definitely true or that it is totally untrue. Besides this report on the history channel some while back there is very little in main stream media about this and it took some digging (which I love) to find even a few facts.

According to NPL his eye movements from the interview says that he is not lying about the story but is in fact recalling it kinesthetically, Kinesthetic is a form of learning also called tactile learning in which learning occurs by the student carrying out a physical activity. In other words physical experience, which has two sub-channels, tactile (touch) and kinesthetic (movement). Therefore this would mean he was recalling his physical experience through sight and touch. Recalling kinesthetically the eyes may move to the lower right hand corner, during learning this also occurs.

And if anyone is unsure of the location where this discovery was made, allow me to simplify it for you…the Bemuda Traingle…

The monumental discovery or rather re-discovery was made by French explorers is a partially translucent, crystal-like pyramid rising from the Caribbean seabed— its origin, age and purpose are completely unknown at this point. These potential amazing underwater pyramid structures were first identified using sonar technology according to oceanographer Dr. Verlag Meyer. In terms of the size of this re-discovered pyramid, it is larger in scale than the pyramids of ancient Egypt. Interestingly, on the top of the pyramid are two very large holes. Water moves at high speeds through one of the holes causing waves to roll by forming a giant vortex.


This causes a massive surge of waves and mist on the surface of the sea. Scientists are now pondering a new idea, is this vortex effect explaining what has been happening with disappearing passing boats and planes in the mysterious Bermuda Triangle?

Since the 1960s these underwater crystal-like pyramids, yes pyramids as there are two along side one another, have been independently verified by diving teams from France and the U.S. Nonetheless, this re-discovery has rocked scientists around the world. As this underwater pyramid is reportedly surrounded by buildings. The total complex is estimated at 5 miles (8 km) wide, and even longer.

Upon Dr. Ray Brown’s investigation of the structure he was amazed by the detail that the sides of the pyramid were completely smooth and the joints between the individual blocks to be nearly indiscernible. Upon entering the pyramid, Dr. Brown was further astounded by the clean, smooth sides of the interior: no algae or coral grew on the walls. Inside the pyramid he was fascinated by the various structures and items he saw inside. At one point he attempted to remove a multi-faceted red gemstone attached to a metallic rod that descended from the centre of the ceiling but was unable to dislodge it. As he continued on, about 1.2m below the point of the gemstone, he saw a bronze sculpture of two open hands. Resting in the open hands is a now famous crystal sphere that he was able to take from its resting place. 10 cm diameter, Dr. Brown was surprised that he could lift the crystal sphere easily.

Generally as an enquiring minded person myself I would have thought, as many would that the world’s scientists and governments would rush to explore this magnificent find. I am sure that funding and resources could easily be granted to discover what is going on with the pyramid, the vortex and especially when the pyramid was built, I for one would like to know, yet since its original discovery to its recent re-discovery nothing much seems to have been done about this totally confounding discovery. Especially now that we know why there is this strange current and weather surrounding this area.
It is also believed that further study of this pyramid could confirm what some engineers believe about pyraminds…that their original design was created as a massive power sources. This might help finally solve the riddle of all the pyrimds around the world and might finally lead us to clues on Atlantis (yes I know I sound like those crazy people but lets face Atlantis does seem to keep cropping up in historical documents, don’t they?).

In the years following, Dr. Brown has sometimes shown the round crystal to lecture audiences. Inside it, a series of pyramidal forms are visible. A throbbing sensation is felt in the hand when it is held, according to reports.

Now lets look at the “gigantic specs”:

Gigantic worked stones, including enormous stones set into buildings: eg –

·         200 ton (181437 kg) blocks at Ollantaytambo and Ollantayparubo, Peru.
·         100 to 200 ton (90718 to 181437 kg) foundation and wall blocks of Tiahuanaco, Bolivia.
·         340 ton (308443 kg) 65 ft (19 m) high standing stones of Brittany, France.
·         2000 ton (1814396 kg) foundation stone, and 1000 ton (907185 kg) 180 ft stones fitted 20 ft (6.1m) up in the building at the Temple of Jupiter, Baalbek, Lebanon
·         50 (45359 kg) to 300 ton (272155 kg) blocks of Sacsayhuamen, Peru, fitted precisely without cement
·         20,000 ton (18143695 kg) block the size of a 5-storey house in same locality.
·         50 ton (45359 kg) building blocks transported across a lake in Mexico
·         Walls 40 ft (12.2m) thick, Chan Chan, Peru   
·         50 ton (45359 kg) building slabs, in the Amazon jungle
·         Stone heads the size of a 7-storey building, cut, moved and erected, on Easter Island
·         25 to 50 ton (22679 to 45359 kg) blocks at Stonehenge, England
·         233- 20,000 pound (9072 kg) geometrically shaped blocks at El Enladrillado, Chile
·         23 ft (7m) thick walls at Magdalensburg, Austria
·         240,000 pound (108862 kg) 30 ft (9m) long stone crosspiece above an 18 ft (5.5m) high door, in Peloponnesus, Greece.
·         50 ft (15m) thick walls at Tiryns, Greece
·         170 ton (154221 kg) stone tomb on Tonga Tabu, Pacific Ocean
·         65 ft (19m) giant statues and one 900 ton (816466 kg) 70 ft (21m) high statue with a big toe 3 ft (1m) long, at Thebes, Egypt
·         40 ton (36287 kg) monolith on Vanua Levu, Fiji
·         65 ft (19m) high columns on Rimatara
·         Statue 18 stories high, Bemian, Afghanistan 
·         Also buildings hundreds of ft high

Stones set in place by preceding, unknown races are so much larger and more difficult to transport than those put in place by subsequent cultures.
We noted the biblical record of a giant by the name of Og, king of Bashan.
"For Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of the giants; his bedstead was… nine cubits the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it… Bashan, which was called the land of giants" (Deut. 3:10-13).
So says Moses, writing 3,500 years ago.
The ancient territory of Bashan now lies in southern Syria; it is dangerous Bedouin country.
The Bible says that the conquest of Bashan by the Israelites began with Moses and was completed by Jair. In Argob, one of its little provinces, Jair took no less than sixty great cities,
"fenced with high walls, gates and bars; besides unwalled towns a great many" (Deut. 3:4,5,14).
Such a statement seems all but incredible. How could a province measuring not more than 30 by 20 miles (50 by 32kilometers) support such a number of fortified cities, especially when the greater part of it was a wilderness of rock?

But, mysterious and incredible as this seems, the cities built and occupied 4,000 years ago by these giants exist even yet.

Nineteenth century explorer, Josiah Porter, traversed their empty streets; he opened doors of their houses; he slept peacefully in their long-deserted halls.From a tower in one of them, Salcah, Porter counted some 30 towns and villages dotting the surface of the plain.
He reports: "On the spot, with my own eyes, I have seen that it is literally true. The cities are there to this day. Some of them retain the ancient names recorded in the Bible." (Porter, The Giant Cities of Bashan).
These ancient cities contain probably the very oldest complete specimens of domestic architecture now existing in the world.Various Bible writers describe Bashan as almost an earthly paradise - the strength and grandeur of its oaks, the beauty of its mountain scenery, the unrivalled luxuriance of its pastures, the fertility of its wide-spreading plains and the excellence of its cattle. Remnants of the oak forests still clothe the mountainsides.

Ancient Bashan comprises a vast field of basalt, elevated some 30 ft (9m) above the plain. It is called the "Lejah". Here stood the giant cities. Surrounding it was the fertile plain of Bashan. Worldwide, most ancient cities have vanished. Not so Bashan. It is literally crowded with towns and large villages - most of them, until recently, deserted. Yet they are not ruined! Many of the houses in these cities are perfect, as if only finished yesterday. The walls are sound, the roofs unbroken, the doors, and even the window-shutters in place.
The walls of the cities are 15ft (4.6m) thick and 30 ft (9m) high. Porter found the huge gates still in place.
Some of the buildings in the city of Bozrah would grace the proudest modern Western city.
These ancient streets were paved - still perfect, not a stone out of place. Even the walls of houses are up to eight ft thick, built of large squared blocks of basalt, without cement. The roofs are made of basalt slabs, cut like planks and reaching from wall to wall. Heavy slabs form the ceilings. The very doors and window-shutters are of stone. The massive doors hang upon pivots, working in sockets, as do the window-shutters. The black basalt used is almost as hard as iron. Porter measured doors 9ft (2.7m) high by ft (1.4m) wide and 10 inches (25.4cm) thick. In one door was seen a place for a massive lock. The doors are tastefully ornamented with panels and garlands of fruit and flowers, sculptured in relief.Rooms inside private houses measured up to 20 ft (6.1m) high. Here are huge rooms and apartments in perfect preservation. One by one, Porter entered some of these old houses, went up stairs and visited the rooms.

Moss grew over the ruins. Groups of tapering columns sprang up from the dense foliage of the oaks. Luxuriant creepers twisted around the pillars. Brambles grew in festoons over the doorways. Branches of trees shot through gaping cracks in some old walls. When Porter explored this area, he was stunned. So perfect was every street, every house, every room - so perfect, yet not a sound. Huge houses built among wild rocks, hundreds of houses per city, still perfect, but not a man to dwell in them. Remains of fountains and statues. The rocks are black, the soil is black, the buildings are all black - but not gloomy. The grass is green, the oak foliage, glittering in the sun, was brilliant. The private houses bore the marks of most remote antiquity. They leave us to conclude that the cities were built by giants - a race of giants that has been extinct for more than 3,000 years.

Porter noted that the highways of Bashan were still in place, completely covered here and there, with the branches of oak trees and straggling brambles. It makes you wonder, doesn't it? Here we have the biblical record, more than 3,000 years old, containing incidental descriptions, statements and statistics, which few men would be inclined to receive on trust, which some would throw aside as "glaring absurdities" and "gross exaggerations", and yet which close and thorough examination proves to be accurate in the most minute detail.

But if you really want to see something staggering, read the biblical prophecies concerning particular cities of Bashan, most unlikely of fulfilment when they were made. (I regret the lack of space here.)The whole of Bashan (and adjacent Moab) is one great fulfilled prophecy.

In November 2000, an Australian member of an archaeological Discovery crew, Denis Heath, went into southern Syria. He reported:
"Jonathan had suggested that I explore south-east Syria for evidence of the 60 'cities of the Giants of Bashan', which were conquered by Moses, as described in Deuteronomy 3:3-5. I did this by taxi one day. There is plenty of evidence of ancient black basalt 'cities', mostly within modern townships, which are integrated with the ruins. Some of the evidence is very good, including the high-arched doorway into a large house in Al Harisah, which has cleverly designed, high-arched stone ceilings. It supports a new house which has just been plonked on top, with livestock and accumulating debris occupying the rooms below.
These 'cities' are really walled towns normally only about a hectare (2½ acres) in area. They appear to be scattered around the ancient fortress just outside El Khodor, which is built on a high volcanic plug. This fortress has been built and rebuilt several times since, but there is plenty of evidence of really ancient foundations and structures dating well before the Roman ruins, which are very obvious. I imagine that King Og (referred to in Numbers 21) ruled from this fortress.
Unfortunately, it is now a communications centre for the Syrian armed forces and my taxi driver and I were hauled before some senior army people after I photographed it and started to climb it. Then two varieties of secret police arrived to interrogate us (there are eight varieties in Syria). However, after receiving my side-screen video of old ruins and pretty Druse girls, they saw the humour of the situation. Then I was feted with cups of 'chi' (black tea) and a formal apology, 'on behalf of the President of Syria,' who is 'pleased to have tourists, and welcomes you with open arms.'I have no doubt that the occupants of the Bashan cities were very large people because all the doorways were wide and high. However, I could not tell how high the rooms were because there was always a few ft of debris on the floors and entrances, I would guess twelve ft high, on average."
(By the way, King Og's bedstead would be 15.45 ft or [4.7m] long.)

The Capital of King Og named Earei is now named the City of Dera and the current city has been integrated into the ruins.

And just so that every one is aware the Ruins of Petra are part of the cities of the Edomites, the original capitol of Edom, Bozrah.




We’ll come back to this in a minute but now I’d like to continue further a field if I may. My fingers just itch for this next serious of “inputs”.

There is an ancient copper mine near the coastal town of Llandudno in North Wales. This area rises 220m above the Irish Sea, and it is known as the location of the Great Orme Copper Mine. It dates to the Bronze Age, about 3500 years ago. More than 2500 hammers have been recovered at the mine.

So what? you may ask, it is a mine after all.

The mine itself is believed to stretch for many kilometers, with 6 km already surveyed. It is known to have nine levels within it, and over 1700 tons (1542214 kg) of copper are known to have been removed from this mine.

This without the benefit of today’s modern tools, but they certainly had hammers, sledge hammers…

These days the largest typical sledge hammer weighs 9kg, though sledge hammers of 5kg are probably more average. I suppose a grown man, definitely not me, could wield a 9kg sledge hammer for short periods of time, and if he was in the construction business for a bit longer, yet this would be just stupid as a sledge hammer is usually lifted over the shoulder and then swung forward. Wouldn’t want to imagine how much effort it would take to not only lift it over your shoulder but to bring it back up toward a wall, it would take monumental power. Therefore a 5kg hammer does seem more logical but even so I have witnessed workmen wield these and after a very short time they are tired and I imagine their bodies must not be a happy place. Now the head of a 9kg sledge hammer is roughly the size of a regular house brick. Beautiful image isn’t it? Now can u imagine anyone mining with a hammer this size all day long? Me? Not particularly. It's very hard to imagine using one of these for mining, day in and day out. Now increase the size of 9kg by 300% to the size of a 27 kg sledge hammer (which is not currently manufactured or ever will be I think). The handle would be 3m long, with the metal head about the size of a cement block. An even bigger 29kg sledge hammer was found at the copper mine by archaeologists. To lift this 29kg hammer using only the far end of a 3m long handle would be beyond the strength of any man. To swing it with force would be virtually impossible.




So who or what could have wielded one of these back-breakers? If we scale the up the size of the ancient people so they could use this tool, the giants at the copper mine may have been perhaps 12 to 18 feet (3.7 to 5.5m) tall, or about 3 times taller than an average human being of today.

This was not the only large find.

Oxford University researchers unearthed evidence from Lake Makgadikgadi in the Kalahari Desert, which at 66,000 square km is about the same size of present day Lake Victoria that suggests that the region was once much drier and wetter than it is today. Their research was prompted by the discovery of the first of what are believed to be the world’s largest stone tools on the bed of the lake. Although the first find was made in the 1990s, the discovery of four giant axes has not been scientifically reported until 2009. Four giant stone hand axes, measuring over 30 cm long and of uncertain age, were recovered from the lake basin.

There are doubled headed Minoan axes or Labrys on display at the Heraklion Museum. Now labrys are most commonly associated with the Minoan civilization, which reached its peak in the 2nd millennium B.C.E. The labrys might have been used during sacrifices. The sacrifices would likely have been of bulls. The labrys symbol has been found widely in the Bronze Age archaeological recovery at the Palace of Knossos on Crete. It has been stated that some Minoan labrys have been found which are taller than a human. Now we might think that this is only slightly taller right can’t be that much and if we research further we find that according to archaeological finds on Crete this double-axe was used specifically by Minoan priestesses for ceremonial uses. Of all the Minoan religious symbols, the axe was the holiest. To find such an axe in the hands of a Minoan woman would suggest strongly that she held a powerful position within the Minoan culture. So they can’t be that big right? I mean if it was that much bigger and it was used in sacrificial rights specifically by women who would have to make actual use of it there’s no way it could be that big…?

Well the Minoan axes on display at Heraklion, for which there is no notation of height that I can find and it has been clearly stated were for votive or worship practices and never actually used as tools or weapons (none the less I’d still like to know what their exact size is), are three times the height of an average person. The only way one can determine the size of these items are when tourists have stood beside them to take photographs.

So my question is this, if I were a priestess of about 1.6m in height how in the name of all that is good and sane in the world would I have been able to lift these axes for ritual sacrifices? Once again just my opinion.

There are every day objects that have been found across the world, many of them very similar to one another. Not only giant axes and hammers but swords that no human could lift today, not only because of their weight but because of their size. We are well aware that the standard broad sword came to just a little under the hip of its owner but I am referring to swords larger than this.

Another strange find was made 20 miles (20km) north of Peoria, Illinois, in August of 1870, although not of giant proportions, it’s presence is still perplexing. Three men were dulling an artesian well, when the pump brought a small metal medallion to the surface from a depth of over a hundred feet. One of the workmen, Jacob W. Moffit, from Chillicothe, was the first to discover it in the drill residue. Professor Alexander Winchell, who was a noted scholar of the time, reported in his book “Sparks From a Geologist’s Hammer”, that he received from another eye-witness, W.H. Wilmot, a detailed statement, dated December 4, 1871, of the deposits and depths of materials made during the boring, and the position where the metal “coin” was uncovered.

The strange “coin-medallion” was composed of an unidentified copper alloy, about the size and thickness of a U.S. quarter of that period. It was remarkably uniform in thickness, round, and the edges appeared to have been cut. Researcher William E. Dubois, who presented his investigation of the medallion to the American Philosophical Society, was convinced that the object had in fact passed through a rolling mill, the edges showed 'further evidence of the machine shop’, this would have been extremely unusual practice at the time.' Despite its 'modern characteristics,' however, Dubois plainly saw that, upon the object, 'the tooth of time is plainly visible'. Both sides of the medallion were marked with artwork and hieroglyphs, but these had not been metal-engraved or stamped. Rather, the figures had somehow been etched in acid, to a remarkable degree of intricacy. One side showed the figure of a woman wearing a crown or headdress; her left arm is raised as if in benediction, and her right arm holds a small child, also crowned. The woman appears to be speaking. On the opposite side is another central figure, that appears to be a crouching animal: it has long, pointed ears, large eyes and mouth, claw-like arms, and a long tail frayed at the very end. Below and to the left of it is another animal, which bears a strong resemblance to a horse. Around the outer edges of both sides of the coin are undecipherable glyphs; they are of very definite character, and show all the signs of a form of alphabetic writing.
In 1876, the medallion was presented by Professor Winchell to a meeting of the Geological Section of the American Association in Buffalo. There was much speculation, but few answers. One participant, a conservative historian, Professor J.R. Lesley, tried to explain the object as a “practical joke” dropped into a hole by a passing French or Spanish explorer. The professor even claimed to see the coin’s figures as the astrological signs of Pisces and Leo, and read into the glyphs the date 1572. However, Winchell countered that this interpretation was not plausible. The strata in which the coin/medallion was uncovered was as follows :

Soil - 3 feet; yellow clay - 17 feet; blue clay - 44 feet; dark vegetable matter -4 feet; hard purplish
clay - 18 feet; bright green clay - 8 feet; mottled clay - 18 feet; paleosol (ancient soils) - 2 feet; coin location; yellowish clay - 1 foot; sand, clay and
water - 11 feet.

His extended counter arguments against such an interpretation was as follows –

1. By no stretch of the imagination were the figures and glyphs decipherable in terms of any known symbology or script.

2. Who, as a practical joke, would have dropped a metal object into a hole and known that someone several hundred years later would happen to dull at that precise spot (within a 4-inch tolerance) and find it? The odds would be phenomenal. And

3. There is the very real problem of explaining the accumulation of 114 feet (35m or 45.5 m according to Peter Kolosimo) of deposit over the buried coin. Having examined all the evidence, Winchell was convinced the coin had indeed come from this depth. It had not fallen into a hole in the past; the sediments drilled through were uniform and undisturbed. And the amount of sedimentation was not what would have settled in only a few centuries.

In fact, recent calculations based on uniform rates of alluvium deposition and radioisotope dates for this region estimate an age for materials from just below a depth of 100 feet to be between 100,000 and 150,000 years.

As if to further thumb its nose at those who were disbelieving at the association, this possible forgotten civilization produced another surprise. From the deep levels in Illinois, in Whiteside County from another well-drilling bit there came, brought up from a sand stratum of 120 feet deep, two copper artifacts: What appeared to be a hook, and a ring; in 1851. Their age is thought to be the same as that of the coin - about 150,000 years old.

When ever we are told that man’s knowledge of things like metallurgy and mechanics is only a few hundred years hold in some cases a few thousand years old father times throws a wrench in the works and dances around cackling like an old witch. Somehow when we think we know everything about the history of mankind something strange is found in sand and in other cases, cole…

In 1944 Newton Anderson claimed to have found a bell inside a lump of coal that was mined near his house in West Virginia. When Newton dropped the lump it broke, revealing a bell encased inside. How did a brass bell with an iron clapper find its way inside coal that is supposed to be hundreds of millions of years old? According to Norm Scharbough's book Ammunition (which includes a compilation of many such "coal anecdotes") the bell was extensively analyzed at the University of Oklahoma and it was found to contain an unusual mixture of metals, different from any modern usage.
And the list of oddities continue:
An iron nail was found in a Cretaceous block (now for anyone who doesn’t know, the cretaceous period was supposed to be the period during which the dinosaurs went extinct, anyone else asking how the hell?) from the Mesozoic era which was the mid-1800s. A gold thread was found in stone in England in 1844. Another iron nail was found in quartz in California in 1851 and the mold of a metal screw was found in a chunk of feldspar in the same year 1851, to cap of the year a silver vessel was found in solid rock in Massachusetts.
An intricately carved and inlaid metal bowl was found in solid rock in1852. I also found that an
iron nail was found in rock in a Peruvian mine by Spanish conquistadores in1572. 

(to be continued we'll be discussing giant races)