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Friday, 22 November 2013

Films Create Unrealistic Expectation!




On most social networks people enjoy posting,

"Movies create the illusion of what love should be like for women and porn creates the delusion for men what sex should be like."

(or some such nonsense)

Some will agree or disagree for various reasons, most often the the agreement will be because of the literal view.

Well I agree with the former and disagree with the latter.

Yes you heard me!

The Romantic Comedy 

For me these films do represent what love could be, if only people would see the truth and potential these films provide. If we look carefully these flicks are not about perfect relationships but instead, trials, heartbreak and the possibility of something beautiful. It is unfortunate this is not seen.

Movie examples:

 These films are not examples of the perfect relationships or perfect endings, in actuality these are examples of relationships pushed to their breaking points and in some cases there are no happy endings yet we can still see the potential the couples don't see. That is what relationships are actually about. Seeing the potential, being able to stand back and see the problems from an objective stand point, but only in a perfect world, right? In reality all we understand is the hurt and pain we experience. Problems become insurmountable mountains instead of mole hills we can simply step over.

Something that we all forget is that we are all imperfect, we all have a past and we all have emotional baggage that is not always possible to simply forget or put behind us. In some way we are all broken, and it's not exactly about putting the pieces back together in the right way. It is more about understanding why we broke in the first place and coming to terms with the fact that sometimes the pieces wont fit together perfectly ever again but that doesn't mean that we have to be bitter, or broken.

A very large number of people both men and women are being or have been affected by past relationships or events that have come to pass in their lives. Yet this does not mean that everyone that is emotionally stunted or scared have been victims of physical, mental or emotional abuse. Simple neglect can cause many deep scares as well. These scares might not necessarily mean they, themselves, have been hurt. Children can become emotionally withdrawn by watching their parents ignore one another or by seeing the attempts of one parent to connect with the other continually evaded either purposefully or without their realizing, and this "education" they receive is carried into adulthood. True this might not always have the negative effect we anticipate, some of these children realise what they need to do that is important to maintain a healthy relationship but most often these children turn into the adult who holds everyone at arms length. This is the unfortunate truth, we scare our children, through emotional distance with our partner and broken homes and many other things. Many of these actions taken because we want to do what's best for ourselves without seeing the damage we cause to those close to us.

If we look at the film examples I've given above, these are examples of couples who have been together for a number of years either living together or married and some are even "damaged" in some ways. These are couples who are tempted to cheat, some give in and have to live with the consequences of their choice as often they discover their choices were the wrong ones. We see partner neglect, sometimes purposeful, and other times unconscious; as we see them comfortable in their lives and forgetful of their partners needs.

There are many reasons we become distanced from our partners:
  • Work obligations
  • Family obligations
  • Comfort zones 
  • Non-communication.
And these thing greatly affect the alone time couples need causing, in many cases, for the "love" to fray, crumble, and often fade. In the films noted above there are many cases of couples experiencing just this, as in "The Story of Us", where the couple in question have gotten to the point that there is only conversation when their children are present. On the verge of divorce they have decided to let the children in on the demise of family life after their school trip, the pair then proceed to live apart but during this period both are haunted by their argument about infidelity, help around the house, feelings of inadequacy and happy memories. Although both realise that they would rather make thinks work, neither one can manage to admit it, until there is no longer a way out and the children have to be told on their return. It then just takes one of them to admit that despite nothing being perfect there is still enough love for them to agree, even silently that there is still something left to save.

The fact that we won't admit that we are wrong causes irreparable damage and there are many people who would rather live with the consequences of a decision than admit they are wrong. Rather a fool that is right, than a fool who is wrong.
In the films "Fireproof", "The Breakup", and " Temptations", partner neglect and comfort zones of one partner is very prevalent. One partner, the male, in this case has become very comfortable that their partner will always be there to take care of things and either openly and consciously ignores open pleas for help or attention and or has become blinded to it because they are comfortable in their way of life thereby making their partner feel neglected and unappreciated.  The result is sometimes infidelity if the appropriate or the desired attention and help is obtained or shown by a third party and even if this does not occur it is often that what still follows is a damaging, and in some cases ugly breakup, punctuated by even worse shouting matches and recriminations.

"Fireproof" is a good example, even if one chooses to ignore the spiritual message, of one such person receiving good constructive advice from someone who cares. 
The unfortunate thing, and we see it often in restaurants these days, is that technology has take the place of good conversation. How often have you seen people, or a couple at the table but one if not both aren't talking, let-alone looking at one another because they're to busy on their phones web surfing or chatting to someone else. Our technology awakened state has opened us to "unhealthy" additions, that takes away essential time away from our significant other and we don't realise that these actions makes our partner feel neglected and inadequate.

The wonderful Tiler Perry film "Why did I get Married"  is a bit more complicated because of the number of couples and the diverse problems each couple experiences including the complete break down of a relationship due to infidelity and not only neglect but total disrespect and disregard for ones partner. This particular film illustrates that no two couples are the same and what works for one will not necessarily work for the other. Some problems are more complex than others, both emotionally and mentally and each couple has to find their own way of doing things but the important message remains universal; respectful communication is important, even if it is easier to try and emotionally wound our partner.

Who of course does not enjoy a tearjerker, so called because of the deep emotions they stir because we can sympathize with the character in question or we wish to be or wish not to be in the positions they find themselves in. "The Vow", which is based on a true story, and "PS I Love You" are what most men would say are ridiculous ideas of love.  As who in their right mind would keep pursuing someone who as forgotten that they ever met you not to mention that you shared any kind of love. Never mind encouraging someone to continue in a life that does not include you and could possibly lead to the arms of someone else.

A very large number of women, myself included, would not want to see their partner with someone else dead or not. That's after all how we as humans are built.

Yet, it is that unconditional, deep, earth-shattering love that we all dream of that evokes the longings within us to be better people for our partners that is what moves us to tears in these films.

Then of course "Nights in Rodanthe" is finding love with someone even though you're a little broke.

What is my point you ask?
The point I am trying to illustrate is that these films tend to show us the faults in our own relationships if we would be brave enough to actually see them.

"Brooke: I just don't know how we got here. Our entire relationship, I have gone above and beyond for you, for us. I've cooked, I've picked your shit up off the floor, I've laid your clothes out for you like you're a four year old. I support you, I supported your work. If we ever had dinner or anything I did the plans, I take care of everything. And I just don't feel like you appreciate any of it. I don't feel you appreciate me. All I want is to know, is for you to show me that you care.
Gary: Why didn't you just say that to me"
Brooke: I tried. I've tried.
Gary: Never like that, you might have said some things that meant to imply that, but I'm not a mind reader...
Brooke: It wouldn't matter you are who you are. Just leave me alone ok? Right now, just shut my door."
(from the Break UP)

If you have ever heard this from your partner at any point during your relationship, and you haven't changed anything about your actions, then you don't realise the damage you do to your relationship or the person who is with you. And if your partner hasn't left you (yet), then they are worth having in your life but it is very clear that you do not deserve them. Because it is not that your partner hasn't said that they need to know you care and appreciate them, as it is something anyone would want, but it's that you haven't listened to what they have to say or really seen their eyes when you disappoint them by making less effort because they're the ones doing everything.

For movies like this, an important hint, if anything looks or sounds familiar or similar to you in ANYway then you need to really start paying attention because it means that your relationship could be in trouble and  many solutions could be found to your problems in these films.

These films teach us to value our partner, to do things for our partner especially if they would happily return the favour. A relationship, any relationship, is not about you or what you need, it is about the needs of others. It is about making those who are important to you happy, making them feel loved, wanted, appreciated and valued; all these things mean different things to different people and often take some work but if you understand this concept you will be happy. How? because if you are loving and living, doing things for the well being of others especially your partner, chances are, your partner will be returning the favour ten fold. Resulting in your happiness and contentment.

"Gary:It's not about doing the things you love, it's about doing things with the one you love!"
(from The Break Up)

Don't get me wrong, it is healthy to have interests outside your relationship, hobbies, sports and whatever else floats your boat (not affairs of course, unless you and your partner are into that kind of thing of course), we all need a bit of "me" time but not me time at the expense of your relationship. Balance is key.


Now for the second part of my argument,

Porn

There's a statement that I  love: "If you're watching porn with your girl and she blushes then she truly innocent but if she smiles, it means that she can do better".

Now any woman out there will agree that 90% of porn movies are REALLY bad, why? cause they have NO DAMN PLOT! How realistic is it to come across a stranger and two seconds later you're going at one another, okay scratch that, for those of us who aren't INTO total random sex it's totally stupid. Besides that women only have breasts like that!in porn films, CAUSE they have had them put ON their bodies by DOCTORS, not God.

But that said, why can't life be an erotic adventure? And you don't have to be single or a total slut (male or female: and this is not said in a derogatory manner at all) to be sexually adventurous.
There are a large number of things that can be done in the comfort and trust of a long-term relationship and or marriage. Neither does it have to be sleazy (unless that's what you want).

There are role-playing games that are both fun and sexy, bondage, erotic massage, in fact there are  a variety of ways of spicing up your love life. It just depends on how adventurous you and your partner are and what you are comfortable with. And this is important, you cannot do anything your partner is not fully comfortable with. That said you might find out that something you thought you wouldn't like is actually what you do want.

Consenting adults people that's the main thing!

The easiest thing, as most counselors would tell you, is discussing your fantasies with your partner. This alone might be all you need and you might find that you and your partner have the same ideas, what could be better than that!

All relationships need the following in my opinion:


  1. Lots of love
  2. Respect
  3. Communication ( about everything)
  4. Romance
  5. and Great Sex
A lot of people out there, especially women will say there isn't time, particularly if there are children but lets face it, you found the time to make those children, make time again. Yes, yes, look at that second child you have!! We somehow, some were in our busy schedules make the time for everything and anything else that has to be done, why not this too? As it also HAS to be done.



Everyone, especially women, not only need to feel loved but WANTED. The only way to do that is through intimacy. Looks, touches, kisses, particularly passionate kisses. Send here that damn expensive bouquet of flowers for goodness sake, it won't kill you! And ladies send your guy that sexy/sweet photo or text, no one said you have to be naked or sleazy!
Discussing with your partner your wants and needs are essential!!!

As said in The Vow
 "Leo: I need to make my wife fall in love with me again."

That one line is what it is ALL about, getting your partner to fall in love with you, if not everyday, as often ad heavenly possible.

Why would you want to fall into the category of "knowing what you've lost once it's gone"?
And yes anything worth having is hard won or not easily come by, but love and a good healthy loving relationship does not have to be torturous or constant blood sweat and tears. Go ahead and have the argument, the discussion, the disagreement; it's good for you, do what is required of you; you need to. But make the relationship, as loving, romantic and fun as you can.

Richard Cooper: Life is about choice. We are the sum of our choices. And most of them are made for us. You can't choose when you're born. You can't choose where you are born. You can't choose your family. You can't even choose who you love. But you can choose how you love.
(from I Think I Love My Wife)

So love well and love long, its one of the things that make this life we live worth living.




Monday, 18 November 2013

The Fall of Satan - Fallen Angel Mythos ( Birth of Demons 1)


There are possibly numerous myths about fallen angels; in fact the fallen angel mythos has given new life to fiction writers bag of tricks in the last decade.



Fallen angels have been the source in some cases for the vampire myth as well as the source of all demon kind. There are three greater abiding and, in my opinion, the most prominent stories behind the birth or creation of demons.

1.     The Fall of Satan

2.     Gregori

3.     Lilith the Mother of all Demons


It seems highly appropriate that we begin with the Fall of Satan as I have spent the last few months discussing satanic pacts and so forth.

SATAN? THE HORNED DEMON?

So who was Satan exactly? He is known by many names; Devil, Satan; Lucifer; Iblis; Shayān and many refer to him fondly as the “father of lies” from the pulpit. Those of most monotheist belief systems around the world have been taught that Satan, also known as Lucifer was an angel, one of God’s most beloved in fact, who was cast out of heaven by God because of his vanity. We are also taught that at every turn he tries to get man to sin so that he will turn away from God thereby increasing his own followers.

For me as a reasonable person there are many holes in this teaching, as why would a very powerful being who was cast out of heaven with a host of other angels seek out silly human souls? When an immortal angel would be far more powerful after all.

Well there are two stories about the fall of God’s once great angel, one I have heard people scoff at with out really studying it, because the other seems more highly likely to them than the former.

But we still have not answered the original question… Who is Satan?

The supposedly great demon himself is usually known by two names to all of Christendom, (not taking the generic term Devil into account) Satan and Lucifer.

Well Lucifer means “Son of the morning” or “morning star” and
Satan means “adversary”. But adversary to whom? To man or to God himself? The Bible doesn’t exactly make this clear until the New Testament. Before the New Testament, there is scant reference to him, and he seems to barely play a role, until the Book of Job. The Satan in Job appears different to the Christian Satan we have all been taught to...hate. 

It’s better to start at the beginning, the beginning in this case being Genesis, particularly regarding the creation and Adam and Eve’s fall from grace so to speak, most of us have made certain assumptions to these events.

So let us highlight several events that occurred around the Garden of Eden in Genesis.
The creation of the world as we all know it is that God created the world in 6 days and rested on the seventh. He created man on the 6th day and placed them in the Garden of Eden. He created other animals, which He asked Adam to name. He also created Eve from Adam’s rib. He prohibited Adam and Eve from eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. The serpent tricked Eve into eating from the tree, and then Eve convinced Adam, also, into eating the fruit. Adam and Eve could distinguish right and wrong after eating the fruit, and they became ashamed at their nakedness. God punished man, woman and snake for their disobedience. Adam and Eve were then, for want of a better term, thrown from the Garden of Eden on their collective asses. And a guard was placed at the gates so that they could never enter again.

Yet there is no places in Genesis were Satan is ever mentioned, either by his other names or titles, such as Lucifer and the Devil. And yet everyone assumes that the snake in the Garden of Eden was him in disguise. So I have wondered where the equation of Satan with the snake began. In fact there are no mentions of the name Satan being used in the Old Testament at all, until the Book of Job, 2nd Chronicles and the book of Zechariah. And not once was he mentioned as a fallen angel in the Old Testament. Satan was also known as the Devil and Beelzebul, but these references can only be found in the New Testament.

As for references in the New Testament, "Satan" occurs more than 30 times in passages alongside Diabolos (Greek for "the devil"), referring to the same person or thing as Satan and Beelzebub, meaning "Lord of Flies", is the contemptuous name given in the Hebrew Bible and New Testament to a Philistine god whose original name has been reconstructed as most probably "Ba'al Zabul," meaning "Baal the Prince." In later Christian and Biblical sources, he is referred to as another name for Devil, and in Catholic demonology, is one of the seven princes of Hell according to Catholic views on Hell. In the Testament of Solomon, Beelzebul (not Beelzebub) appears as prince of the demons and says (6.2) that he was formerly a leading heavenly angel who was (6.7) associated with the star Hesperus (which is the normal Greek name for the planet Venus (Αφροδíτη) as evening star). Ba'al, meaning "Lord" in Ugaritic, was used in conjunction with a descriptive name of a specific god. The Septuagint renders the name as Baalzebub (βααλζεβούβ) and as Baal muian (βααλ μυιαν, "Baal of flies"), but Symmachus the Ebionite may have reflected a tradition of its offensive ancient name when he rendered it as Beelzeboul.

Scholars are divided, in regard to the god of Ekron, between the belief that zebub may be the original affix to Baal and that it is a substitute for an original zbl which, after the discoveries of Ras Shamra, has been connected with the title of "prince", frequently attributed to Baal in mythological texts. In addition to the intrinsic weakness of this last position, which is not supported by the versions, is the fact that it was long ago suggested that there was a relationship between the Philistine god and cults of fly or apotropaic divinities (deities that warded off evil) appearing in the Hellenic world, such as Zeus Apomyios or Myiagros. It is exactly this last connection which is confirmed by the Ugaritic text when we examine how Baal affects the expulsion of the flies which are the patient's sickness. According to Francesco Saracino (1982) this series of elements may be inconclusive as evidence, but the fact that in relationship to Baal Zebub, the two constituent terms are here linked, joined by a function (ndy) that is typical of some divinities attested in the Mediterranean world, is a strong argument in favour of the authenticity of the name of the god of Ekron, and of his possible therapeutic activities, which are implicit in 2 Kings 1:2-3, etc.

So Satan and Baalzebub are to different creatures altogether, were as seemingly, Beelzebul here is simply seen to refer to Lucifer. Beelzebul claims to cause destruction through tyrants, to cause demons to be worshiped among men, to excite priests to lust, to cause jealousies in cities and murders, and to bring on war. The Testament of Solomon is a Hellenistic Old Testament pseudepigraphical work, purportedly written by King Solomon, in which Solomon mostly describes particular demons whom he enslaved to help build the temple, with substantial Christian interpolations.

A simple explanation for the lack of mention of Satan could be that prior to the Babylonian Exile, Judaism had no heaven or hell - souls of the dead simply went to a place of rest, sheol, regardless of the life that had been led. The notion of Satan entered Judaism during the Babylonian Exile, so no biblical Book written before that time contains any reference to Satan. Chronicles was actually written during the Exile, as a revision to the Deuteronomic History, and thus is the first book in the Bible to contain the name Satan.

1 Chronicles 21:1:
"And Satan stood up against Israel and provoked David to number Israel."

Because Kings (part of the Deuteronomic history) was written before the Exile, the corresponding passage contains no mention of Satan either.

What it comes down to is that Satan is not exactly who we think he is, but still the question stands who is he and why did he fall?

Maybe the possession of the serpent by Satan was the cause of his fall and from that we can determine why he fell?

But if the snake was Satan in disguise, why did God punish the serpent? Genesis clearly states that God’s curse was on the serpent, he did not say you Lucifer or Satan or any of the other names that are associated with Satan. The argument also stands, if, it is argued that the snake was possessed by Satan. It is the equivalent of saying that a person possessed by Satan should be punished because of being possessed.

Genesis 3:14
So the Lord God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, cursed are you above all livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life. And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."
(so the serpent could, what, walk before?!!)

So why do we think that the serpent is Satan? Except for the fact that many BELIEVE that it is…this is not conclusive evidence of the linkage, Satan-Serpent.
So no, can’t be that as the reason…

Now we come to the Book of Job, which I mentioned earlier, here Satan is introduced, but not yet as the adversary of God portrayed in later Christian belief, but as a 'son of God' or angel, whose role was to prove the righteousness of people by tempting them to do wrong. God twice gave Satan a challenge to have Job curse God, first by destroying his family and his property (1:8,11), then by afflicting him with a terrible disease. If Job cursed God, he would be judged as evil.
Also here we do not find the fall of Satan being mentioned. Maybe if we look elsewhere?

Maybe the next passages will tell has who and why.

Since we know that Satan has been identified with the name Lucifer, a Greek name for the Son of Dawn or the Son of the Morning Star, perhaps the earliest reference to Satan, via Lucifer, can be found in Isaiah.

Isaiah 14:12 (JPS)
"How are you fallen from heaven O Shining One, son of Dawn! How are you felled to earth, O vanquisher of nations! "

Or from the King James' version:
Isaiah 14:12 (KJV)
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! "

Could this be it? Finally!

It may look right, if you were just to take verse 12 on its own. However, this verse is very unsatisfactory, if you read the surrounding passages, you will realise that "Lucifer" or the "son of Dawn" is actually a metaphor, yes, BUT not for Satan. The early verse (14:4), clearly indicate the following verses are about the King of Babylon.

The term appears in the context of an oracle against a dead king of Babylon, who is addressed as הילל בן שחר (hêlêl ben šāar), rendered by the King James Version as "O Lucifer, son of the morning!" and by others as "morning star, son of the dawn". In a modern translation from the original Hebrew, the passage in which the phrase "Lucifer" or "morning star" occurs begins with the statement:


"On the day the Lord gives you relief from your suffering and turmoil and from the harsh labour forced on you, you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon: How the oppressor has come to an end! How his fury has ended!"

After describing the death of the king, the taunt continues:
"How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, 'I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.' But you are brought down to the realm of the dead, to the depths of the pit. Those who see you stare at you, they ponder your fate: 'Is this the man who shook the earth and made kingdoms tremble, the man who made the world a wilderness, who overthrew its cities and would not let his captives go home?'"

Some would argue that the words 'I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.' Echo Satan. Right?
J. Carl Laney has pointed out that in the final verses here quoted; the king of Babylon is described not as a god or an angel but as a man.

For the unnamed "king of Babylon" a wide range of identifications have been proposed. They include a Babylonian ruler of the prophet Isaiah's own time the later Nebuchadnezzar II, under whom the Babylonian captivity of the Jews began, or Nabonidus, and the Assyrian kings Tiglath-Pileser, Sargon II and Sennacherib. Herbert Wolf held that the "king of Babylon" was not a specific ruler but a generic representation of the whole line of rulers.
Also if we read as confirmation

Isaiah 14:4 (KJV)
…you shall recite this song of scorn over the king of Babylon:

So by reading chapter 14, verses 4 to 23, God is actually talking about the King of Babylon. So if you were to interpret verse 12 properly in conjunction to all the surrounding verses ( as it should be), it is that Lucifer is the king of Babylon and the predictions is that his empire would eventually fall. The son of Morning is nothing more than a metaphor but NOT for Satan.

Early Christians were influenced by the association of Isaiah 14:12-18 with the Devil, which had developed in the period between the writing of the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, also called the Intertestamental Period when the deuterocanonical books were written. Even in the New Testament itself, Sigve K Tonstad argues, the War in Heaven theme of Revelation 12:7-9, in which the dragon "who is called the devil and Satan … was thrown down to the earth", derives from the passage in Isaiah 14. Origen (184/185 – 253/254) interpreted such Old Testament passages as being about manifestations of the Devil; but of course, writing in Greek, not Latin, he did not identify the Devil with the name "Lucifer". Tertullian (c. 160 – c. 225), also understood Isaiah 14:14 ("I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High") as spoken by the Devil, but "Lucifer" is not among the numerous names and phrases he used to describe the Devil. Even at the time of the Latin writer Augustine of Hippo (354 – 430), "Lucifer" had not yet become a common name for the Devil.

Sometime later, the metaphor of the morning star that Isaiah 14:12 applied to a king of Babylon gave rise to the general use of the Latin word for "morning star", capitalized, as the original name of the Devil before his fall from grace, linking Isaiah 14:12 with Luke 10:18 ("I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven") and interpreting the passage in Isaiah as an allegory of Satan's fall from heaven.
Theodoret of Cyrus (c. 393 – c. 457) wrote that Isaiah calls the king "morning star", not as being the star, but as having had the illusion of being it. John Calvin said: "The exposition of this passage, which some have given, as if it referred to Satan, has arisen from ignorance: for the context plainly shows these statements must be understood in reference to the king of the Babylonians." Martin Luther also considered it a gross error to refer this verse to the devil.

It is very clear then that Lucifer with a capital “L” was never meant as a name such as Peter or Mark, but simply as a term. There are many “Christian” sites and writings that  I have come across in my research that makes the same mistake by simply taking verse 12 and running with it and expounding on it in that it is Satan’s way as referring to himself as “morning star” to blaspheme Jesus as Jesus is also referred to as morning star but not as by using the word “Lucifer” lower case “l”.


So we can't really rely on Isaiah to confirm the fall of Satan. We can't rely on the Book of Job, because it puts Satan in the light that he is working for God not against, by testing the faith and devotion of man.

The only account that indicates that Satan had fallen or might still fall, is given in the New Testament's Book of Revelation 12 ( as mentioned above), in regards to the revelation of Woman and the Dragon.

Revelation 12:1-9 (KJV)
And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.


I wonder if everyone is breathing a sigh of relief.

So Satan fell…or has he?

Lets continue with the crux of the matter.

Who is Satan and why did he fall?

Most believe that Satan was cast out of heaven because he was filled with pride and wanted to place himself above God. Well yes and no.

Essentially Heaven is divided into seven, yes seven levels, ever much like hell is also divided into seven in old stories, and in the highest Heaven we would find God and his closest Guard.

There are angels who are said to surround the throne of God and their sole purpose is to praise God. Now we all are aware that there are different ranks of angels. One of them being cherubim. These creatures have 6 wings and all the surfaces of their bodies, including the wings, are supposed to be covered with eyes. Each cherub has four faces, one of a cherub, the second the face of a man, the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle. In essence angels are not as we see them or imagine them. They have no actual physical human form. Satan (lets call him that as it will be easier as we have already established that lucifer, lower case “L” was the term used to refer the a king not the disobedient angel) was created in absolute perfection and beauty. He was dedicated to producing music for God. Therefore his body was covered in all manner of musical instruments as well as many precious stones and gold and silver (it is now because of the description of his body that many people believe that music is evil and that Satan influences people through it, yet they maintain that gospel music is still good, figures there would be a double standard). He was one of Gods most favoured, as it is said, because of the fact that he was created solely for the glorification of God through his music, so in other words he was not only beautiful and powerful but he was “lord of music” so to speak.

Most of us have been taught the watered down version, that Satan opposed God, thought he was better and wiser and most see this when they read the text that states in the bible that Satan said to God that he would elevate himself above the stars and therefore above God himself, Isaiah 14:14, but….

Strangely. although, in the Genesis of the Christian bible it does not say exactly how the disobedience came about, yet it hints at it in other sections of the bible, from reading of other sacred texts such as the Haggada, which when read congruently with Genesis fills in many of the blanks left in Genesis. Many of us remember very clearly especially if you went to Sunday School that God brought the animals before Adam and asked him to name them, even as a child I wanted to know why God had wanted to have Adam name them instead of doing it himself. Especially if he only received wisdom after eating from the tree of knowledge and I never could get an answer from anyone.

According to this –

God created Adam to be absolutely perfect in every way, physically and spiritually pure. The story fully reads :

The extraordinary qualities with which Adam was blessed, physical and spiritual as well, aroused the envy of the angels. They attempted to consume him with fire, and he would have perished, had not the protecting hand of God rested upon him, and established peace between him and the heavenly host. In particular, Satan was jealous of the first man, and his evil thoughts finally led to his fall. After Adam had been endowed with a soul, God invited all the angels to come and pay him reverence and homage. Satan, the greatest of the angels in heaven, with twelve wings, instead of six like all the others, refused to pay heed to the behest of God, saying, "Thou didst create us angels from the splendor of the Shekinah, and now Thou dost command us to cast ourselves down before the creature which Thou didst fashion out of the dust of the ground!" God answered, "Yet this dust of the ground has more wisdom and understanding than thou." Satan demanded a trial of wit with Adam, and God assented thereto, saying: "I have created beasts, birds, and reptiles, I shall have them all come before thee and before Adam. If thou art able to give them names, I shall command Adam to show honor unto thee, and thou shalt rest next to the Shekinah of My glory. But if not, and Adam calls them by the names I have assigned to them, then thou wilt be subject to Adam, and he shall have a place in My garden, and cultivate it." Thus spake God, and He betook Himself to Paradise, Satan following Him. When Adam beheld God, he said to his wife, "O come, let us worship and bow down; let us kneel before the Lord our Maker." Now Satan attempted to assign names to the animals. He failed with the first two that presented themselves, the ox and the cow. God led two others before him, the camel and the donkey, with the same result. Then God turned to Adam, and questioned him regarding the names of the same animals, framing His questions in such wise that the first letter of the first word was the same as the first letter of the name of the animal standing before him. Thus Adam divined the proper name, and Satan was forced to acknowledge the superiority of the first man. Nevertheless he broke out in wild outcries that reached the heavens, and he refused to do homage unto Adam as he had been bidden. The host of angels led by him did likewise, in spite of the urgent representations of Michael, who was the first to prostrate himself before Adam in order to show a good example to the other angels. Michael addressed Satan: "Give adoration to the image of God! But if thou doest it not, then the Lord God will break out in wrath against thee." Satan replied: "If He breaks out in wrath against me, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God, I will be like the Most High!" At once God flung Satan and his host out of heaven, down to the earth, and from that moment dates the enmity between Satan and man.'
– Haggada (volume 1, chapter 2)

As found in the Haggada, and not in Genesis, Satan's Fall came about his refusal to bow to Adam, after Adam's creation. The Haggada not only states that God had not only already assigned each species of animal with a name, which he had spoken to the animals but not to Adam, but also gives the reason why Adam had to call each by name.
The only other source of this event between Adam and Satan comes from the Islamic Qur'an.
Here, the Quran called Satan by the name (or title) Iblis

Qur'an version: ( note that the “we” used is akin to the royal “we” used for “I”)

And We have given you (mankind) power in the earth, and appointed for you therein livelihoods. Little give ye thanks!
And We created you, then fashioned you, then told the angels: Fall ye prostrate before Adam! And they fell prostrate, all save Iblis, who was not of those who make prostration.
He said: What hindered thee that thou didst not fall prostrate when I bade thee ? (Iblis) said: I am better than him. Thou createdst me of fire while him Thou didst create of mud.
He said: Then go down hence! It is not for thee to show pride here, so go forth! Lo! thou art of those degraded.
– Qur'an 7:10-13

And in fact as per the Hebrew Bible it does not say that Satan is an angel, nor that he is fallen: it uses the corresponding Hebrew word, which means "adversary", of human opponents or some evil influence, but in three places it personifies Satan as a character, always inferior to God's power: it portrays him as an accuser (Zechariah 3:1-2), a seducer (1 Chronicles 21:1) or a heavenly persecutor (Job 2:1).

I have noted to others before that if we say that Satan fell from grace as per what we have been taught the reason for his fall was that God asked that he bow before man and it was this refusal that caused his fall, it might have been out of pride or maybe there was just a little more to it than that. It might be that in his eyes he was a being created out of “light” were as man was created out of something lower and less pure. We also need to keep in mind that Satan was created to worship and glorify God, then to have to prostrate himself to a being that was, is in essence much less than not only himself but especially his creator and this might  have been horrifying in this being’s eyes. Is it not possible that Satan, as an angle saw what man would become and could not understand how God could still value humanity has He did? Yet people are horrified to think that Satan could be anything else than evil.

But through him maybe we are provided with ways to test the types of people we truly are.

So Satan’s fall coincides perfectly with the creation of mankind, and not before that as many of us has been taught or thought.

This brings us back to the Temptation of Eve by the Snake.

Now most Christians are aware of one book of Genesis and that is the end of it all, but people who are more interested in learning about their religion as well as scholars around the world are aware that there are at least 5 books of Genesis.

There are two creations stories in these books; one is both Adam and Eve were created together by God. The other is were Adam was created from dust, placed in the garden and given dominion over all the animals and given instruction not to eat from the tree of knowledge placed in the garden (as well as not from the tree of life, which was supposed to give immortality, yet Adam and Eve were already immortal) Eve was then created after this from Adam’s “rib” (hope everyone’s questioning the quotation marks right now). The serpent then tricks Eve and she in turn gets Adam to eat from the fruit as well, thereby dooming the rest of humanity to suffer old age and women especially to suffer menstruation and to suffer through child birth, the latter curse was given in the Bible but the former curse was placed on woman by the church. Given as a reason why women suffered through this particular monthly event.
(Wonder how many knew that this was the curse particularly attributed to Eve for her crime of disobedience).

In the first account as stated “man and female, God created” implying that they were created at the same time (possibly in the same way) and in the second account it is stated that Eve was created subsequent to the creation of Adam. The Midrash Rabbah – Genesis VIII:1 reconciled the two by stating that in Genesis one, "male and female He created them", indicates that God originally created Adam as a hermaphrodite bodily and spiritually both male and female, before creating the separate beings of Adam and Eve. Other rabbis suggested a different reason for these to differing account of creation…

In total the creation of humanity is mentioned three times in the books of Genesis.
In Islam, Adam (Ādam; Arabic: آدم‎), whose role is being the father of humanity, is looked upon by Muslims with reverence. Eve (awwāʼ; Arabic: حواء ) is the "mother of humanity." The creation of Adam and Eve is referred to in the Qurān, although different Quranic interpreters give different views on the actual creation story (Quran, Surat al-Nisa, verse 1).

In al-Qummi's tafsir on the Garden of Eden, such a place was not entirely earthly. According to the Qur’ān, both Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit in a Heavenly Eden (See also Jannah). As a result, they were both sent down to Earth as God's representatives. Each person was sent to a mountain peak: Adam on al-Safa, and Eve on al-Marwah. In this Islamic tradition, Adam wept 40 days until he repented, after which God sent down the Black Stone, teaching him the Hajj. According to a prophetic hadith, Adam and Eve reunited in the plain of ‘Arafat, near Mecca. They had two sons together, Qabil and HabilThe concept of original sin does not exist in Islam, because Adam and Eve were forgiven by God. When God orders the angels to bow to Adam, Iblīs questioned, "Why should I bow to man? I am made of pure fire and he is made of soil." The liberal movements within Islam have viewed God's commanding the angels to bow before Adam as an exaltation of humanity, and as a means of supporting human rights; others view it as an act of showing Adam that the greatest enemy of humans on earth will be their ego. In the Baha'i Faith, Adam is seen as a manifestation of God, and the Adam and Eve narratives are seen as having divine mysteries and containing universal meanings, but are also seen as having mythical features. Abdul-Baha described Adam as a spirit and Eve as a soul. Their story is explained in the Baha'i text.

Now please take special note of these varying views, it might come in handy much later as we continue.


Because Eve tempted Adam to eat of the fatal fruit, some early Fathers of the Church held her and all subsequent women to be the first sinners, and especially responsible for the Fall. "You are the devil's gateway" Tertullian told his female listeners in the early 2nd century, and went on to explain that they were responsible for the death of Christ: "On account of your desert (i.e., punishment for sin), that is, death, even the Son of God had to die." In 1486, the Dominicans Kramer and Sprengler used similar tracts in Malleus Maleficarum ("Hammer of Witches") to justify the persecution of "witches".

Additionally, the serpent that tempted Eve was interpreted to have been Satan, or that Satan was using a serpent as a mouthpiece, although there is no mention of this identification in the Torah and it is not held in Judaism (yes I know I’m repeating myself but just bare with me).

Now we all know that Adam and Eve had two sons right? Or was it three? Or more?

Well originally they did have two sons, Cain and Abel but was it just the two sons as how would two males populate the earth if there where no other people. It is only said much later that they had other offspring, who are neither named nor are their descendants, but when Adam was definitely no longer anywhere near a young man. They did also have a third son, Seth, to make up for the loss of Abel after he was killed by his brother. But what about the daughters of Adam and Eve?

The Targumim, rabbinic sources, and later speculations supplemented background details for the daughters of Adam and Eve. Such exegesis of Genesis 4 introduced Cain's wife as being his sister, a concept that has been accepted for at least 1800 years. This can be seen with Jubilees 4 which narrates that Cain settled down and married his sister Awan, who bore his son, the first Enoch, approximately 196 years after the creation of Adam. Cain then establishes the first city, naming it after his son, builds a house, and lives there until it collapses on him, killing him in the same year that Adam dies (as one version of Cain’s death states).

The myth also states that Abel was one of triplets two of which were girls and he married one of those sisters.

Cain was a twin, for with him was born a girl; and Abel was one of three, for with him came two girls.
--Gen. Rabba 22.

There are other sources, sacred texts, which allude to something more sinister with the death of Abel than simply jealousy that God had given Abel higher praise than Cain.

The Conflict of Adam and Eve with Satan is a Christian extracanonical work found in Ge'ez, translated from an Arabic original and thought to date from the 5th or 6th century AD, is such a text.

It does not form part of the canon of any known church, but is a late part of the broad family of Old Testament Pseudepigrapha literature which includes the Life of Adam and Eve, Apocalypse of Adam, Testament of Adam and Books of Adam. It does not make any claims as to its authorship, and thus is technically not pseudepigrapha, a word meaning "falsely ascribed to an author who did not actually write it." But before we get into other possible reasons for the first murder lets concentrate on just before they were born...

The moment man fell from grace so to speak.

Now I have already questioned why it was that the creature, the serpent, was punished and not Satan if it was in fact Satan either possessing or taking the form of the creature well according to Jewish Scripture, the “evil one” requested first of the peacock if he could ride in his tail that looked like eyes but the peacock refused then he asked the serpent if he could ride on his back into the garden from which he was forbidden from entering. The serpent agreed, this was the reason for its punishment, it was not possessed but helped the evil one to enter. Now who was the “evil one”? was it Satan? We have already established that he had sufficient motive for this crime and reason, but was it Satan?

In the Sayings of Rabbi Eliezer, Samael is charged with being the one (in the guise of a serpent) who tempted Eve, seduced her, and became by her the father of Cain and his twin sister.

(and so the twist continues)

Samael is an archangel who has been regarded both as evil and good; as one of the greatest and as one of the foulest spirits operating in Heaven, on earth, and in Hell. On the one hand he is said to be chief ruler of the 5th Heaven (in Jewish legendary lore his residence is usually placed in the 7th Heaven), one of the 7 regents of the world served by 2 million angels; on the other hand, he is "that great serpent with 12 wings that draws after him, in his fall, the solar system." (Cf. Revelation 12.) Samael is also the angel of death (one of a number of such angels) whom God sent to fetch the soul of Moses when the Lawgiver's days on earth had come to an end. Talmud Yalkut I, 110, speaks of Samael as Esau's guardian angel.

And so the plot thickens. This would then mean was it actually a “fruit” of which Eve at, or was it physical seduction that took place?

Targum Jonathan to the Prophets renders Genesis 3:6 as: "And this woman saw Samael the angel of death." This verse is translated in the Paraphrase of Job, 28:7, as "the path of the Tree of Life which Samael, who flies like a bird, did not know, and which the eye of Eve did not perceive." 

Now isn’t that a brain twister for you!

Extract : BOOK NINE, MYTHS OF EXILE

Samael was the great prince in heaven. After God created the world, Samael took his
band of followers and descended and saw the creatures that God had created. Among
them he found none so skilled to do evil than the serpent, as it is said, Now the serpent was
the shrewdest of all the wild beasts (Gen. 3:1). Its appearance was something like that of a
camel, and Samael mounted and rode upon it. Riding on the serpent, the angel Samael
came to Eve in the night and seduced her, and she conceived Cain. Later, while Eve was
pregnant by the angel, Adam came to her, and she conceived Abel.
   Others say it was the serpent himself who seduced Eve, for after he saw Adam and Eve
coupling, the serpent conceived a passion for her. He even imagined killing Adam and marrying
Eve. So he came to Eve when she was alone and possessed her and infused her with
lust. That is how the serpent fathered Cain,…..


This myth is a response to the enigmatic verse in which Eve says, I have gotten a man
with the aid of Yahweh (Gen. 4:1). Targum Pseudo-Yonathan translates this verse as “I
have acquired a man, the angel of the Lord.”
One reading of this verse in the Talmud (B. Shab. 146a) suggests that Eve had intercourse
with the serpent: “When the serpent consorted with Eve, he cast impurity into
her.” This interpretation is echoed in the Zohar: “From the impurity with which the
serpent infected Eve emerged Cain.” Pirkei de-Rabbi Eliezer builds on the talmudic interpretation,
but changes it in an essential way. Here the true father of Cain is the
angel Samael, who came to Eve riding on the serpent. Indeed, in this passage the
angel and serpent are closely linked,

When Cain was born, Adam knew at once that he was not of his seed, for he was not
after his likeness, nor after his image. Instead, Cain’s appearance was that of a heavenly
being. And when Eve saw that his appearance was not of this world, she said, I have
gained a male child with the help of Yahweh (Gen. 4:1).

The fact that Samael is regarded as the angel of death in Jewish lore would also thus account for why he was not allowed into the garden as in the garden Adam and Eve where given eternal life.

So Abel was born in the image of Adam as was his twin sister/s, which would then mean that Cain was the first half-human, half-angel as was his twin sister.

So is it then possible that the fruit from the Tree of knowledge was actually the knowledge of carnal desires? Of course this cannot be so, but I will explain why when we talk about Lilith who is supposed to be the mother of all Demons.

There are a number of texts that speak of the Eve being seduced not only in eating the fruit of knowledge as we have been taught but hints to something more as indicated from the extracts above. In Jewish religious texts it has been calculated that although Cain and Abel were born once Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden it has been calculated that their birth’s were more or less a year after the expulsion.

The view can be taken that Eve was  tempted with the fruit which gave her the knowledge of what was “pure” and what was “not pure” and then was seduced by Samael. Who has been accused of many sexual exploits.

The account that Samael was Cain’s father is also given as the reason why he able to kill his brother without seeming remorseful as well as being willful in refusing to give God an answer when questioned as to his brother’s whereabouts.

Also there have been numerous forms of art work which depict the serpent sinuously winding itself around Eve’s body which further indicated the idea presented in various text that Eve was sexually seduced and that Cain was in fact the first of the Gregori.

Other authors have also noted that God not only cursed the serpent but his “seed” as well and have openly wondered if the “seed” mentioned here did not necessarily mean animosity between human children and other serpents. Especially when Cain murders Abel later on. Authors have indicated that this could be the animosity spoken of. Animosity between the human children of Adam and Eve and the part-human children conceived between the Serpent, Samael, and Eve.

So it appears that although many things might be laid at the door of Satan, the fall of mankind might not be one of them. It brings to mind that maybe Satan is not exactly a demon in that sense of the word. A horned being living in hell who was the cause of everything that went wrong with humanity. It seems, as well, that our idea of Satan being cast into hell is not exactly the correct perception. Yes, he was cast down, but was it into hell?

So thus far we have established that Satan and Lucifer are not the same being, in fact many of the names and distributions attributed to Satan are in fact descriptions of other beings that have been tacked onto Satan. We have also established when the fall of Satan took place as well as the fact that it is quite possible that Satan had absolutely nothing to do with the fall of mankind.

"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it"
(Job 1.6-7 KJV bible).

Interesting, yes? So Satan was not cast into Hell, he is simply cast down from being favoured by God, he is free to come and go were ever it pleases him. The verse of Revelation 12 also makes reference to this, that although Satan is out of favour with God he has as yet not been expelled from heaven. And he has not been forced to reside in a place where he sends his minions to harass humanity. He has free reign in earth and in heaven.

So did he actually turn into a demon? Or is he just a disgraced angel? Could it be possible that he is not exactly a Demon as how we interpret it?

As how would something created as an angel turn into something else? So is it not possible then that Satan is simply “adversary” as stated but not an actual Demon?
So let us continue.

According to texts,
THE spirits of demons were created on the eve of the sixth day, but before their bodies were formed the Sabbath set in, when rest was proclaimed, and their formation was not consummated.--Gen. Rabba 7.

Essentially according to this Demons are completely separate beings from anything else. They are not formed in any other way but are the byproduct so to speak of the creation of the world.

Now there are two other interesting texts,
After Cain had killed Abel, Adam separated from his wife for the space of 130 years, during which time Adam emitted male demons and Eve female demons.--Gen. Rabba 20.
and
Eve, 'as the mother of all living,' was also the mother of demons.--Gen. Rabba 20.
Also,
Noah took demons into the ark and thus preserved their species.--Gen. Rabba 31.
Heart-attack anyone?

Adam did not want to lose any more sons -
According to Midrash Abkir (ca. 10th century), which was followed by the Zohar and Kabbalistic writings. Adam is said to be perfect until he recognizes either his sin or Cain's homicide that is the cause of bringing death into the world. He then separates from holy Eve, sleeps alone, and fasts for 130 years. During this time another creature (we will name her later, if no one has guessed yet), desired his beauty and came to him against his will. She bore him many demons and spirits called "the plagues of humankind". The added explanation was that it was through Adam's own sin that she overcame him against his will.

Then after being away from Eve for 130 years he finally realises his error and returns to her and they have a third son Seth who marries Azura, yet again his sister.

It is more interesting to note that not only did Seth have offspring but so did Cain







These are the descendents of Cain and his brother Seth, any one notice the similarity in names. These names have been the cause of many scholars fretting.

Special note should be taken that only one in each line is noted; Cain’s son Enoch, maybe his first son maybe not let us assume it is his first as only those directly descended from Enoch appear to be noted, who the city he established was named after. And in turn Cain’s grandson, Irad, and so on down the line until we reach Lamech who’s, even more note worthy, two wives are named as well as the children he sired with them. Keep in mind his offspring with Zullah as this might be important as we continue. These where TabulCain and Naamah. All of Cain’s offspring as well as Cain himself is noted with the creation of civilization and except for mentioning all of Seth’s decedents up until Noah nothing else is mentioned about them, no contribution to the creation of the world as we know it was made even given the similarity of names.

According to various biblical texts both Christian, Jewish and other, Cain and his descendants were the builders of cities, they were agriculturalist, farming cattle as well. They were iron mongers and musicians; they are credited as harp players among other instruments.

Some scholars have noted that it was highly possible that the duplication of names on Seth’s side may have taken place as all modern advancements are attributed to Cain’s children, not Seth, in a means to over shadow Cain and his descendents. As their linage was a cursed line. After the birth of Lamech’s children from both his wives no other descendents are mentioned. The learned person is thus left with the assumption that the line died out. Right?

Now Noah is the only one of Seth’s descendants which is actually discussed, as he was to build the ark when God decided to rid the earth of mankind.

Cain was also still alive in the time of his extreme great grandson, Lamech, as he is attributed with killing not only Cain, who was called a young man in the text, but one of his sons as well, by accident of course as he was blind and lets face it, to take a blind man hunting is probably not the greatest idea (this is the second version of Cain’s death).

So up to this point we have established that although Satan was “fallen” in the eyes of God, fallen from graced because of his disobedience, he and those angels who followed him. But up to this point Satan himself has not been in any direct manner responsible for the iniquity that plagued humanity. Of course this is simply how I view things from the facts I have collected. But by all means please…research for yourselves and judge.

In my opinion (we are after all entitled to one), if we look at what has happened because of mankind and since his “birth” it provides all the reasons why Satan would be so set out to “destroy” mankind. Is it not more possible that because Satan loved God so much that he could not stand that God appeared to love a creature that in his eyes were so much lower than his own angels in every facet? Therefore by tempting man continuously he tries to prove man as unworthy of the praise given to us by God? That Satan as an angel saw what humanity would be capable of and unlike God did not think we were worth having faith in.

Another possibility is that, it is Satan’s role to test us, to show that we have many flaws and that we have to live better lives. So he does not “destroy” us but is the catalyst showing us which direction not to take.

Onto the next possibility Gregori